Can multiple 24p clips be assembled to create scene selection + "Play Movie" option?

pbnyc wrote on 8/1/2003, 1:33 AM
I have multiple video streams all rendered in Vegas with the DVDA 24p NTSC standard setting. Each is accompanied by it's own separate sound AC3 sound stream (also created with Vegas). What I want to do is create a typical "Hollywood style" DVD with these clips as if they were all one movie, i.e. so that the menu contains both scene selection and "play movie" options.

The only way I see to do this with DVDA is:

1) Insert each individual clip using "Insert > Media..." thereby creating the scene selection menu by default.

2) Insert a "music compilation playlist" that contains the same clips in the order they appear in the menu on the page.

The problem with this is disk space. I can't see any way to do it without including each video clip twice: once as a scene, and once as a part of the compilation.

Is it possible to include resources in a DVDA project that the program then "points to" rather than having to create duplicate resources to accomplish what I need to do? Common sense tells me this must be possible, but then, this stuff usually has very little to do with "common sense."

(BTW: I understand that I could theoretically simply render all the clips as one big movie in Vegas with a scene selection menu inserted, but the footage is coming at me too fast, and I don't have time to render it twice.)

Alternatively: is there a way to "Join" 24p + AC3 clips without having to re-render them?

Do any of you DVDA aficionados have any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Comments

kameronj wrote on 8/3/2003, 9:37 AM
The short answer.

No.

The longer short answer....you hit the nail on the head on this one. Take all the clips and render to one long file. Bring into DVDA, insert the media and set chapter points for each.

You could use some other 3rd party joiner.....but at that point - methinks it's 6 in one hand, three squared minus three in the other.
BillyBoy wrote on 8/3/2003, 12:34 PM
You don't have the time?

Would Leonardo da Vinci say that about his Mona Lisa or the Last Supper paintings?

IT TAKES AS LONG AS IT TAKES.

Then again, you're no da Vinci.

Sorry, my sense of humor. But it does bug me people using that limp excuse.
pbnyc wrote on 8/4/2003, 3:30 AM
Normally, I would probably agree with you, but in this instance I'm being fed footage at the rate of 90 minutes per day. Do the math.
kameronj wrote on 8/4/2003, 6:24 AM
I agree with BillyBoy....but, for the sake of discussion - let's do the math.

90 minute footage times 7 days divided by render time X minus sleep and Tee-Tee time divided by the longitude of the hypotinus squared minus the ratio of the defecto coitus interruptus....squared.

Equals.....it takes as long as it takes.

jeffcrow wrote on 8/6/2003, 12:29 PM
The posts are always entertaining around here!

But to address your problem, no this version of DVDA does not have "end actions" that allows to define what happens when the DVD player reaches the end of a clip, maybe that will be in a future version. The workaround for now is to join the clips in Vegas and rerender, then drag the file to the menu in DVDA, then create a scene selection menu. You can leave the original link there as your "play all" link, or what I do sometimes is delete it and create a play all link in the scene selection menu.

I have heard of joiner programs for ac3 but don't know if there are any for vid clips, try someplace like dvdrhelp.com under the Tools link at the left. I've heard that joined ac3 sometimes has noticable sounds at the join point. May be worth a try for you?

As far as the time problem, it sounds like you may be doing this professionally, if you are making any money at it, buy a multi computer license and get a couple of cheap computers, all they need in the way of features is a fast cpu, everything else can be basic. These can be your render machines. Use a removable hard drive system to move the large files back and forth. Could cost under $1000 if you shop around online.