I have also had problems with unqunatized events with Vegas 6. I run Vegas 6 with both show unquantized event start and end set to true in advanced preferences >internal. I frameserve to Procoder 2 which crashes on unquantized events. I have burned many DL + Rs with DVDA3 with no problems using a Plextor 176A. Whe I started I also bought a BenQ 1640, good drive - low price, which comes with a utility that allows you to do a 'test' burn with DL... and avoid a coaster. I have not burned any multi-angle DL + Rs.

Ed

The multi-angle format shouldn't be an issue. I've read that Nero does support DL, but I've not tried it so I don't know how well Nero does with inserting the layer break.

I have had good luck burning DL disks with CopyToDVD from VSO Software. They have a fully functional 30 day free trial.

--Scott

DVDA3 and Vegas6 both seem to have problems, on certain systems, when burning the lead-out using Pioneer 109 and 110 drives AND +R disks. Try using a DVD-R DL disk and see if that helps.

Nero does burn DL discs as Scott states and I have had no problems with the layer break. Just prepare your project in DVDA and burn in Nero. (I have not used DVDAS, as I have DVDA, but I don't think there is a difference in preparing a folder for later output to disc).

j razz

This is an update with results of my experiements.

- Checked all titles to make sure each was quantized to frame length
- 7 hours of preparing. (turned off Smart Prepare) Results sucessful.
- Purchased Nero 7 (Burns DL ok)
- Attempted to burn TS-Video plus .pdf document to TDK DL+R with my pioner 109. Results unsucessful. Disk won't play.
- Burned TS-Video plus .pdf to Dynex DL+R. Results better. Disk plays with problems.

By switching from a known brand like TDK to a lesser known (to me) brand got better results. The problem seems to be that two of my four multi-angle titles play with digital distortion. (half-screen of second angle flashes over angle one).

I suspect that DVDA3 encoded the multi-angle badly. The titles that are screwed up are approx 20 min ea. with three angles. My next experiment will be to break the 20-min titles into two 10-min titles.

FYI... I tried a DL-R disc a while back. My 109 didn't recognize the disc.

I'll post again after another 8 hour cycle of trial and error. (Boy this is getting old!)

Just curious, did you try making just a video DVD without the pdf file? Just curious.

j razz

add the pioneer 610/110 to the list of time outs on burning the lead out ..have tried 3 different disc +DL manufacturers .. borrowed a NEC DL and no problem using DVDa 3 ....

'SFMMCX'-(17)
'USB/1394 Devices'-(3)
-'PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D 1.37'-(0)
Module mmc.cpp Line 1331

Status: 00000000
Command:
Sense: 00 00 00
Info: 00 00 00 00
Specific: 00 00 00
Extra

after trying some more !!!
DVDA3c will not burn single or DL + DVD's ... it will burn "- " single layer DVD's ( don't have any DL -) ..

the NEC DL burner that i borrowed did burn the DL + DVD i had and that i burned on a friends computer ... i noticed that her DVDA was version 3b .. i needed a few more DL so i went back over and i updated her 3b to 3c and since then it has been burned nothing but coaster + disc... no more DL or single + burning ???
it does burn - DVD 's .... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ???

i can still return my pioneer 610... what DVD burner can DVDA3c burn DL to successfully ??

@db,

If you haven't already contacted Sony support, I recommend that you do so. DVDA3 has problems burning disks with some burners, combined with certain PC hardware configurations. Just going out and buying another brand of burner may not solve the problem. But it does seem that DVDA3 has more trouble with the Pio 109s and 110s burners, at least when compared to other brands and models.

BTW, what type of motherboard are you running? Nvidia NForce boards tend to cause a lot of problems with DVDA3 also. If you are using an NForce MB, two things you can try are to a) disable RAID (assuming you aren't using it) and b) install the MS IDE driver instead of the NVidia IDE driver.

But it does seem that DVDA3 has more trouble with the Pio 109s and 110s burners, at least when compared to other brands and models.

I suspect that there is more to this problem than a simple DVDA3 incompatibility. I am burning, right now with DVDA3, on a Pioneer 109, a DVD+RW disk. I've burned -R and -RW as well. I'm scanning 35mm slides in the background, surfing the web, and writing letters during this burn.

Lots of people -- not only on this board -- but elsewhere on the web, were talking about problems with the 109 when it first came out. This was apart from anything specific to Sony and DVDA. Since I had just purchased a 109, I was happy to note that a lot of people DIDN'T have problems.

As anyone who reads my posts knows, I am far from an apologist for Sony, but in this instance, I am not sure whether DVDA3 is entirely at fault. These burners are transferring data at a very fast rate. At the same time, many computers are being burdened with increasing numbers of background tasks that can steal cycles just when they are most needed. Add to that the heat issues in many computers, and I can see how some people have problems.

Best thing to do is contact Sony tech support and give them as much information as possible. Even if the problem is not entirely their "fault," they may be able to engineer a workaround. In the open-architecture world of the PC, another piece of software or hardware can make your program or product perform badly, even though your design conforms to all specifications. As a developer, you can complain about the other guy, or you can figure out a way to make the offending problem irrelevant. Sony wants to make this product work, so I think they'll do whatever is necessary, if you just give them the help but contacting their tech support.

"I am not sure whether DVDA3 is entirely at fault. "

Well given that most people that have posted DVDA burning problems here have indicated that they have no trouble burning with Nero and many other burning programs, one could conclude that the burner routines in DVDA3 are not particularily robust. DVDA3 is obviously not entirely at fault, since the computer's hardware configuration does matter, as does the brand and model of the DVD burner.

But suffice it to say, DVDA3 is a great option for creating DVDs, but its burning capabilities leave a lot to be desired.

But suffice it to say, DVDA3 is a great option for creating DVDs, but its burning capabilities leave a lot to be desired.

Despite my weak attempt at a defense of DVDA3, I can't really argue with your statement.

db, I burn +R DLs successfully on a 16X LITEON I purchased from Walmart. I've burnt maybe 15 in the last month or so, with about 4 coasters - one of which you can tell the disc itself was bad. My motherboard is an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe, one of the earlier versions (1.04) (an NForce board). I don't use the onboard audio, instead I use an internal Creative Audigy 2 card (I like the front audio connection panel), driven by drivers from the kX project (awesome). The LITEON is one of two DVD writers, the second being a hp Writer DVD 300i. I'm running Windows XP, with the SP2 update (just the disk from Microsoft). I'm using a raid0 config for Windows OS systems and Programs, two other hard drives for storage (160G, and 200G), which I read from one, and write to the other, and another 200G external hard drive for completed veg and dar projects and selected backup. I use a 2600+ AMD CPU, and 512MB of memory - slow by todays standards- but it chugs along solidily. I also play games (battlefield-desert combat) and access the internet on the same computer. I hope any of this may help you solve your burn problems. I read somewhere that DVDA3 is only friendly with DL +R DVDs. (I think videomaker mag).

@jm,

Honestly, I don't understand why Sony just doesn't pay Ahead Software some royalties and use the burning algorithms in the Nero SDK. Ahead tends to get pre-release copies of almost every DVD burner and their software is checked on these burners to assure compatibility before the burner is released to the public.