Can this project be saved? – So much work wasted..

TheSearcher wrote on 6/11/2014, 10:24 PM
Hello everyone,



Some of you may know about this project “Nicoya Peninsula Beaches” (in Costa Rica), since this is what got me started with VP12 about a month ago and I already needed to ask some questions about it on the forum.

This movie is divided in two parts. The first part shows you the “Wonderful” VP12 I started putting this project together. The one that no matter what I did (add, delete, move clips around), kept everything in SYNC.

The Second part shows you the “horrible” side of Vegas (just kidding :). Where everything is OUT OF SYNC - due to my experimentation with grouping and Un-Grouping clips, and as a result I did great damage to it. Because of this, just adding or deleting one PIC to the time line will make the situation even worst. At this time I could render the project… but it has holes in it (it has short "dark parts" due to missing clips) and other minor defects, and so I would just not feel good about it.

So I will try to save it in total, or as much of it as I can and reconstruct the bad part.
A further question down the line after you see the video is, how can you put two projects together and render them as one…. Or perhaps the only choice is to render two separate movies and then play one after the other one?.... or is this too sloppy of a technique?....

I will appreciate your feedback,

Thank you In advance

TS

Comments

Steve Mann wrote on 6/11/2014, 10:55 PM
You have asked a lot of questions, and remember there are at least three ways to do anything in Vegas.

The first thing I notice is that somewhere in your workflow, you clicked on "Remove from group". That's when things started going wrong for you. You normally want to leave the audio and video events grouped (this is the default for video from a camera).

I should note here that I rarely use auto-ripple. It's turned off for most of my work. I will turn it on to insert new media, for example, but generally it is off.

Synchronize only works with a single audio and video event. (Everything on the timeline is an event- there are no clips on the timeline.) Select the video event and the corresponding audio event that have become out of sync, then right-click on one of them and select synchronize, by moving. The audio event will move to sync with the video event. Then with both events selected, hit "G" to group them.

This should get you back on track.
PeterDuke wrote on 6/11/2014, 11:21 PM
If the unsynced video and audio partially overlap, the background of each will be pink. Click on the track (audio or video) you wish to move to resync and then right-click and select Resynchronize>By moving.

If the audio and video do not overlap, the Resynchronize option will not be available.
farss wrote on 6/12/2014, 12:27 AM
A couple of tips:

Get rid of the music track, trying to edit vision with that there is going to confuse you.

Having selected a region if you want all the events to move together just group them.
Say you want to cut a small piece out at the beginning. Turn Ripple Off, deleted it. The select everything to the right and group it, then you can slide it up (left) along the timeline to close the gap.

Always check your work and make incremental backups.

Bob.
Duncan H wrote on 6/12/2014, 3:57 AM
Hi,

Watched a bit of your video and the issue of media being "offline" and the resultant render having bits missing is due to the fact that Vegas is looking for your source material in one location (relative to your project file (.veg) on your computer and the source materials (video events, images etc) are no longer in the same relative location. You might have moved the original source files or perhaps you have saved the project (.veg) file to a different location (e.g portable hard drive) and it can no longer find the source footage required. Vegas then gives you options for finding the "lost" files.
Duncan H wrote on 6/12/2014, 4:00 AM
You can put 2 separate project (.veg) files onto the one timeline - this is nesting veg's, drag and drop them onto the timeline. You can then save this as a new single .veg file.
Rory Cooper wrote on 6/12/2014, 6:50 AM
Select the first event or video clip on the timeline /right click/ select events to end/right click synchronize by moving.
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:33 AM
Hi, thanks to you and everyone who has pitched in.

"You have asked a lot of questions, and remember..."
==> Yes, wonderful and scaring at the same time :-) at least for me. I just want to learn as much and as I quickly as I can..

"The first thing I notice is that somewhere in your workflow, you clicked on "Remove from group". That's when things started go..."
==>Yes, I remember doing that and many other things... I just chose the wrong project to do it with.

" I should note here that I rarely use auto-ripple. It's turned off for most of my work. I will turn it on to insert new media, for example, but generally it is off.
==> Now, this is interesting because I had it on ALL the time and I thought it was wonderful (if you saw the first part of the movie). But I will have this in mind for further investigating.

Synchronize only works with a single audio and video event. (Everything on the timeline is an event- there are no clips on the timeline.) Select the video event and the corresponding audio event that have become out of sync, then right-click on one of them and select synchronize, by moving.
==>OK.

"The audio event will move to sync with the video event. Then with both events selected, hit "G" to group them.
==>OK

This should get you back on track.
==>Thanks a lot for your help

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:35 AM
HI

"If the audio and video do not overlap, the Resynchronize option will not be available."
==> it makes sense. Thx for tips

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:38 AM
A couple of tips:

Get rid of the music track, trying to edit vision with that there is going to confuse you.
==>OK

"..Having selected a region if you want all the events to move together just group them.
Say you want to cut a small piece out at the beginning. Turn Ripple Off, deleted it. The select everything to the right and group it, then you can slide it up (left) along the timeline to close the gap..."
==>Now, this, I will have to experiment with it... sounds complex but of course, this techniques are at the heart of editing. Thx

Always check your...
==>I do this... learned this the hard way :)

Thx

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:41 AM
Hi

A bit further in video you would have seen that the "media offline" actually showed up a bit later. Probably a slow CPU, but no problem. I do know what happens if you make a minimum changed to the path of the files imported into VP. I already learned that one :)

Thx

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:47 AM
Hi

"..You can put 2 separate project (.veg) files onto the one timeline - this is nesting veg's, drag and drop them onto the timeline. You can then save this as a new single .veg file.."
==>Really?.... because I tried adding "project A" to a Project B (in progress) and I could not figure it out. There was a lot of stuff added to the "all media" folder.... but... nothing as I expected.

Actually, I expected the project A to be added to the Project B on the time line....just like it looks when it is on the time line itself, but that did not happen.

More experimenting needed.

Thx

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 9:47 AM
Hi,

Thx for tip, will try it.

TS
TheSearcher wrote on 6/12/2014, 6:11 PM
Hi,

I will try it

TS