Can you guys recommend a good mic?

Gonzoman wrote on 3/25/2005, 6:52 PM
I'm using a Sony TRV950 right now and I notice that when handling the camera during shooting...I can hear "handling noises" when I listen back to the footage. Little pops and squeaks and such from my hand being in contact with the camera. I'm thinking a mic to put on top of the cam with some kind shoe shockmount would help with this.

Is there a decent mic for couple hundred dollars that you can recommend for these problems?

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FuTz wrote on 3/25/2005, 7:04 PM

There's been a review about this Rode mic a couple weeks ago by Spot. And I think it's sold with a rubber mounting... just try a Search with "Rode+Spot" and you should find it quick.
But be warned: there's no "miracle" for audio coming from the cam itself. You'll still have to "handle with care" when you shoot. Especially with automatic gain ( which tries to "get" as much sound as it can and usually ends up pumping up the closest noise from the cam, ie most of the time your hands that do their business just under on the cam...)
craftech wrote on 3/25/2005, 8:27 PM
I would recommend the Audio Technica AT822 stereo mic. Comes with everything you need and sounds great. Will work with a minidisc recorder as well.
John
Spot|DSE wrote on 3/25/2005, 8:33 PM
The 822 is a great inexpensive/lower priced stereo, as is it's bigger brother, the 825.
The question is more "what is it going to be used for?"
The Rode VideoMic is a good very low end mono mic, certainly better than the similar priced Azdens. But it's a shotgun, and shotguns are not to be often used indoors as they'll pick up more room than subject in most rooms.
What's the budget?
One nice thing about the 822 is that it doesn't need to sit on/is better used off the camera, allowing you to get it closer to the source. That alone will make a huge difference. A $10.00 mic close to the subject is better than a $600.00 mic 8 feet away. Always.
Gonzoman wrote on 3/25/2005, 9:10 PM
Would be used mostly for journalism type things. Most of the time I need it sitting right on the cam but there may be situations where I could put it on a boom or something. So a mic that would work for both of those types of uses would be good. In regards to a budget, would like to keep it under or about $300.

Spot|DSE wrote on 3/25/2005, 10:14 PM
I'd get the Rode then. Unless you can spring just a tiny bit more, then get the Audio Technica 897
B.Verlik wrote on 3/25/2005, 10:52 PM
Will a Sony Digital 8 Camcorder totally distort using one of these mics in a live band situation. It distorts so easily, even with quiet bands using the built in mic. Or does it need to be attenuated further? Just curious, if anybody knows.
riredale wrote on 3/26/2005, 12:19 AM
I guess there are two questions in there. First, can a mic handle the sound level, and secondly, how to prevent clipping in the camera circuitry. I use two microphone types, a cheaper Sony ECM-MS908C and the more-expensive AT822. I've never seen any kind of clipping effect in loud environments, and the two Sony miniDV cameras I've used to record have a very nice AGC on the audio. But I've never done any recording at blowout levels.
farss wrote on 3/26/2005, 3:05 PM
Good thing with most Rode models, they'll take around 6dB more SPL than the competition. We've had a lot of trouble with Sony cameras in high SPL situations, could just be our cameras but the seem to go into audio lockup for a second or two, mostly seems to affect the PD150/250s. With a D8 camera I'd sure be looking for an attenuator if using external condensor mics, at high SPL those things can put out a lot of sparks which I'd bet the D8s audio circuits were never designed to handle. Anyone handy with a soldering iron should be able to make something for you.
Bob.
B.Verlik wrote on 3/26/2005, 5:45 PM
I'm really not even sure why I asked. My gut feeling was there is no way the D8 can handle it. It would probably distort if you fed in a line level. I'm really sort of surprised that the camera doesn't have an attenuating switch built in, since it has the mic input jack. The Dig 8s built in mics are so sensitive to loud levels and Bass frequencies, it's not funny. Totally unusable sound in a room with a medium-loud band.
JohnnyRoy wrote on 3/29/2005, 12:47 PM
> My gut feeling was there is no way the D8 can handle it. It would probably distort if you fed in a line level.

You might want to consider buying a BeachTek DXA2 Single XLR or DXA02s Dual XLR Compact Adapter. They are made for small consumer camcorders and have a mic/line switch.

I just picked up the DXA-2s because the Audio-Technica Pro 88W wireless system I bought was blowing out the audio on my Panasonic GS-200 (which doesn’t have any audio attenuation). The Pro 88W works great now and I also have dual XLR inputs so I can add an AT822 stereo or AT897 shotgun mic in the future.

~jr