Cannot render anything from 3D project

Marton wrote on 3/26/2012, 2:08 AM
I made a simple editing with TD10 native 3D MTS files. (50i)
Just cut, dissolve, some minor color correction.
Now it's time to rendering.
First i try to make a sample to a 3mbit wmv file,
but rendering stops at different time. Sometimes at 5%, try again and now at 84%. Cpu usage drop to 0% and from my 8GB ram only 4 was used. No gpu encoding was used, only cpu.
Second try was to mpeg2 format, still with the same result :(
I even tried frameserving to procoder, and encode with it, but still:
i cannot render the whole film, only part of it.
No other program was running.
Dynamic ram preview was at 50MB.
I even try to decrease maximum rendering thread to 2.
My hw is i7-2600, fresh win7 64bit.

What's going on? Is this some known, big bug?
Noone else use 3D project?
I use the latest 64bit Vegas 11. Maybe i try the 32bit version.
Thanks for any help!

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/26/2012, 5:34 AM
For which presentation medium do you wish to render? And what was your exact settings?

I ask that since I have no issue to render with the Sony AVC/MVC encoder for 3D BD - for a 3D playback from the 3D Blu Ray player. But to render to mpeg2 - well, the Mainconcept mpeg2 encoder is limited to 2K, what means that you would be able to render the footage as anaglyphic or side-by-side half only.

So that is the reason why I ask for what presentation medium you try to render, and what settings you have used.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Marton wrote on 3/26/2012, 6:05 AM
I tried the 32 bit version too, with no luck.

I can write the format settings, but i'm sure, the problem is not here.
Ie: i can render parts to mpeg2, and join the files on the timline, and i can render this project to 2D wmv, etc. It seems only from 3D MTS project something going wrong here.

Anyway rendering was to
Windows media video v11
Mode: CBR
Format Windows media video 9
Image size 640x384
25 fps PAL
Bitrate 2M
Rendering quality Best:
Steroscopic 3D mode: Left only

For Mainconcept Mpeg2:
Output type: DVD
720x576 25 fps, 16:9
Main profile, Main level
Upper field first
CBR 8mbit
3D Left only

I cannot render either format. At different rendering just stops.
Without any error message.

3rd test was with debugmode frameserver and Procoder.

thanks
Wolfgang S. wrote on 3/26/2012, 7:58 AM
So you try to render out a 2D stream only? That is what I did not understand from your first posting. Typically people may wish to render a 3D project to 3D output.

Unfortunately, I am not at home at the moment - will be back to my editing system on the weekend only. But then I can try to render something with your settings and will come back to you with the information if it works for me or not.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Marton wrote on 3/26/2012, 9:03 AM
ok, thanks
yes, for now it's only for 2D preview.
i will test the MVC output also,
but it's not ok anyway 2D will not render without issues..

edit: mvc render (cpu) hanged up at 40% :-(
cybercom wrote on 3/26/2012, 10:32 PM
FWIW, I have no issues rendering avi files, mov files, sequential tiffs, Xvid MPEG 4 or MVC, 60p, 25Mbps files from Fuji W3 dual-stream 3D files.

It sounds as though some background process is interfering.

Do you leave the computer alone once it starts rendering or do you surf the web, read email, etc?

Have you looked at the processes running in Task Manager?

Are you rendering to a different drive than C:\?

Offhand, I'd look for other possibilities than just Vegas. Swap RAM modules, reseat RAM, latest drivers for your video card, do a complete reboot before rendering, try rendering sequential tiff files, etc.

How long is the piece you are trying to render?

HTH,

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Marton wrote on 3/27/2012, 12:12 AM
You have no issues, but you don't work with TD10 files.
Yes, i leave the computer alone.
(but in the past i always did another task parallel: surfing, email, watch film, etc. and never had problem)
Yes, i render to a separate 2TB hard drive.
I did a long ram test, they are ok.
My nvidia card is up to date.
I don't have tiff files, only 10-30 sec MTS files, project length is 1 hour.

thx
Steve Mann wrote on 3/27/2012, 9:10 AM
Why WMV? That's so 1990...
A 3Mbit file would be less than a half-MB (or did you mean 3MB?), so post it on your dropbox public folder and let others have a whack at it.
Marton wrote on 3/27/2012, 10:51 AM
Thanks for your "useful" advice.
Why wmv? Because my client need just a quick, short preview of the movie. By 3Mbit i mean the video bitrate was 3 megabit per second. Right?