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Grazie wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:14 AM
Yes, via an Analog to Digital Convertor outputted thru FireWire into Vegas.

So: VCR >>A/D Convertor >> FW >> Vegas VidCap

You set VidCap to NO Scene Detect and NO Digital control.

What is your final FINAL delivery platform?

G

FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:22 AM
The EasyCap device sits between the VHS machine and the PC. It plugs into the USB port. The A/D happens in the device and is fed to the USB port. If I try capture from Vegas it only allows DV or HDV.

The final is MPG and DVD
Grazie wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:33 AM
Vegas only allows FireWire.

Grazie

redpaw wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:53 AM
i had one of those, but got rid of it, as it was so awkward and painful to make it work, it was dropping frames and all sort of problems... i remember that there was some kind of driver that needed to be 'adjusted' to make it work in w7... but it's been a long time ago and not a chance that i'll remember any details.

i used virtualdub to capture (it's free, just google it if you dont have it already)

hope that helps just a little bit
dom
Arthur.S wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:58 AM
Bit of a blast from the past this one! I always used a camcorder with 'passthru' enabled. Feed the VHS into it, then use the firewire out to your PC. Vegas will capture that just fine.
Take note of Grazie's advice re turning off scene detect etc.
Richard Jones wrote on 8/5/2014, 4:39 AM
And if you can't find such a camera then you will need an A to D converter such as one of the Canopus ADVC devices. The other an essential thing you will also need is a firewire input into the PC (and the USB/firewire connections aren't reliable enough for making this sort of a transfer).

Richard.
musicvid10 wrote on 8/5/2014, 4:43 AM
The set top DVD recorders are quite good.
Better than A->D over firewire with noisy video.
A quick pass through Videoredo and your ready to edit.
Grazie wrote on 8/5/2014, 4:52 AM


.....(ugh..... I feel quite sick all over again...




Gary James wrote on 8/5/2014, 6:36 AM
All of the USB based video capture devices come with their own custom USB device drivers. If you don't have the proper device driver, your card is useless.

The standard for video capture is via a Firewire card. Windows has built-in drivers for these cards. You can pick one up at Amazon or other electronics retailers like Newegg for around $20. Simply plug it into an empty expansion slot in your PC, and Windows will see it and automatically install the driver. After the Firewire card is installed, it will appear as a capture device in the Vegas Capture utility.
Grazie wrote on 8/5/2014, 6:49 AM
After the Firewire card is installed, it will appear as a capture device in the Vegas Capture utility.

Yes... and eh...no...

In Win7 we've "needed" to delve into the F/W Device and activate the LEGACY Driver for the Chipset. Then Vegas will actually use it. I know . . . .

Grazie

farss wrote on 8/5/2014, 7:37 AM
I had no issues with my ADVC-300, Win 7/64 and VidCap using a new PCIe Firewire card. Maybe the issue is limited to using the older PCI cards.

Bob.
Gary James wrote on 8/5/2014, 7:55 AM
I had no problems either using a cheep $15 Firewire card from Newegg on my Gateway Win 7/64 system. Just plugged it in, started my PC, Windows installed the drivers, and there it was as a video capture device in Vegas. No muss no fuss.
Chienworks wrote on 8/5/2014, 8:02 AM
I think the main issue is that *ALL* USB video capture devices are geared toward the 'toy' end of the market. There aren't any that capture a decent image or make a standard-compliant file. A large part of this is because they were pioneered at a time when USB 2.0 wasn't yet available, so they were limited to 11Mbps bandwidth, and also because the cheaper chipsets weren't powerful enough to do good processing and encoding in real-time.

By the time USB 2.0 was common and more powerful chipsets were available for reasonable prices, no one wanted to bother with USB video because it had been relegated to the junk heap of cheap scummy video. Therefore no one ever bothered making any decent equipment for it.

All that being said, undoubtedly your device came with some software to capture video. Use that program, save the file, and then edit that result in Vegas if you wish. However, don't expect anything good out of it. Real-time MPEG encoding tends to be both very poor quality and very lossy, especially with cheap low-end equipment, which is a recipe for exceptionally poor images.
Grazie wrote on 8/5/2014, 8:13 AM
farss and GG, good.

Grazie



ECB wrote on 8/5/2014, 8:39 AM
Way back when I have used the Canopus ADVC 100 to capture analog video from VCRs... via firewire with excellent results. Later versions than 100 supported timebase correction. Canopus is now Grass Valley and has expanded the line. They can be a $$$$.

ed b
farss wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:40 PM
Unfortunately the best of the Canopus range, the ADVC-300, is no longer available.
According to Grass Valley the tsunami in Japan destroyed the tooling for the product and it was decided it wasn't viable to pay for new tooling. AFAIK there's no single box on the market today that replaces it. The significant difference with the ADVC-300 is it has a time base corrector.

Bob.
John_Cline wrote on 8/5/2014, 3:59 PM
The alternative to the ADVC-300 is an AV Toolbox AVT-8710 Multi-Standard Full-Frame Time Base Corrector and a Grass Valley (Canopus) ADVC55 Firewire Compact Analog / Digital Converter. Together, they can be had for $387.65 plus shipping from B&H Photo. When it was available, the ADVC-300 had a retail price of $599.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/276891-REG/AV_Toolbox_AVT_8710_AVT_8710_Multi_Standard_Time_Base.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/312315-REG/Grass_Valley_602005_ADVC_55_Analog_to_Digital.html
Editguy43 wrote on 8/5/2014, 5:10 PM
I use a Canopus ADVC 110 all the time and it works quite well, it is still available

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/349146-REG/Grass_Valley_602029_ADVC_110_Bidirectional_Media_Converter.html

also I have been wondering about the Blackmagic intensity line either USB3 or the tthunderbolt unit anyone tried these

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/686585-REG/Blackmagic_Design_BINTSSHU_Intensity_Shuttle.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/842013-REG/Blackmagic_Design_BINTSSHU_THBOLT_Intensity_Shuttle_with_Thunderbolt.html

I still have a ADVC 300 as well ( I protect it well) for use when I get a really bad VHS tape to do.

Paul B