Capturing video

johnreelsound wrote on 8/6/2014, 10:47 AM
Hi there I have just installed vegas 12 pro on a pC with windows 7. The computer has a two input firewire PCI card which the computer recognises. However when I go to capture video I get a Device Not Available message and it wont see either my Canon video camera or my Sony DSR 11. Under prefereneces/Device I have set to IEEE 1394 but it wont see eithe. Any Ideas?

Thanks John

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Steve Mann wrote on 8/6/2014, 12:30 PM
Some people have said that you need to be using the Legacy Driver for your firewire card.

I have never used the Vegas capture program. I was already using Scenalyzer Live when I started using Vegas 3 many years ago. It just works and I never needed to try the Vegas capture program.

It's discontinued, but you can still get it here:
http://www.scenalyzer.com/
skosh wrote on 8/6/2014, 4:10 PM
Steve - Thank you very much for mentioning scenalyzer! I've been looking for something that could grab frames for time lapse over firewire and this works just wonderfully.
ushere wrote on 8/6/2014, 8:21 PM
i've always been unhappy that scenalyzer was never updated to handle hdv, let alone avchd.

i would have thought it still a very useful utility for logging if nothing else.
rmack350 wrote on 8/6/2014, 8:33 PM
Do you get a dialog asking you to "Please Select A Video Capture Format"? This dialog chooses which of two capture utilities Vegas will use. One will capture DV and the other will capture HDV and maybe SDI streams. You want the DV capture app.

Rob
Steve Mann wrote on 8/7/2014, 12:55 PM
I use for my HDV capture. Warning, some download sites will try to add unwanted baggage.

HDVSplit has been at rev 0.77Beta for seven years, so don't hold your breath for any updates.
rmack350 wrote on 8/7/2014, 1:17 PM
I don't know about the canon camera but the DSR11 is a DV-only tape deck. I assume we're only talking about DV here.

Now that I think about it, I haven't used my DSR11 since upgrading my work PC and installing Win7-64, so no experience here with the driver issue, but you do want to cover the other bases:

--- Is Vegas loading the DV capture utility or is it loading it's internal HDV capture utility? It's possible to set vegas so it stops asking which you want and it might just be loading the wrong one.
--- Do your devices appear outside of Vegas?
--- Can you capture with apps outside of Vegas?
johnreelsound wrote on 8/8/2014, 12:08 PM
Thanks for your input. I didnt realise that you had to check the box in general preferences to use the Sony Video Capture 6! The footage was shot in HDV but the Video Capture 6 app captures it OK and it plays back in Vegas as 720x480x24 25.0000fps progressive 00.03.28.23 DV. I dont really understand any of this but should there be an option to capture it as HDV?

Thanks again
John
Stringer wrote on 8/8/2014, 12:41 PM
I'm pretty sure that Sony capture is DV only ..
OldSmoke wrote on 8/8/2014, 1:21 PM
When you go to Menu>Capture Video it should ask you if you want to capture in SD or HDV&SDI. However, I recommend a free software called HDVSplit, just Google it, as it is a much better in detecting scenes. Sony Vegas was never and is still not able to capture frame accurate scenes.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 8/8/2014, 1:55 PM
Old Smoke,

Do you have to have an HD capable device connected to see those options?

There is nothing about HD in the Help files..
OldSmoke wrote on 8/8/2014, 2:04 PM
Nope. I have nothing connected to my system and the dialog box shows up. You can also try and press the camera icon in the "Project Media" window.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Stringer wrote on 8/8/2014, 4:52 PM
OK.. Just wow! What a " Doh! " moment for me!

I have never invoked capture from inside Vegas. I have always ran it as stand alone ..

Not sure why I got stuck in that groove, but it is great to be educated.. Thank you so much..
OldSmoke wrote on 8/8/2014, 5:07 PM
I am glad you found it. Now give it try and you will see that at the end of each scene the clip will contain same frames from the next scene. A better way is to use HDVSplit which is a free stand a lone app and it does frame accurate capturing.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)