Cin has been very helpful but I still need help pl

KatM wrote on 7/20/2007, 10:59 PM
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=536080&Replies=13

Cin has been trying to help with this for a long time now. The link is so that others can still see the problem I am having. I am desperate for help! I uninstalled the Vegas 6 I just purchased, did the free trial with Vegas 8, still the same problem. I also did a free trial to PowerDirector. It worked perfectly! Dear Lord my computer is a Sony I would think the software would be as well. I am loosing money as we speak. Please help.

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Eugenia wrote on 7/20/2007, 11:31 PM
You didn't have to create a new topic, you could have continued on the old one.

I can only suggest you upload somewhere that 40 MB file so we can download it and test it. Then, I can spend the time and create a tutorial for you, with screenshots, on how to create a 15 MB WMV file. If all fails, I can do it all for you, upload it somewhere and then get & use that.

Digital cameras usually shoot in VGA resolution, so if you want to keep that resolution and not step down to QVGA, you would need to create a 640x480 resolution video with a bitrate of 425 kbps and 48 kbps audio (digicam audio is crap anyway) in order to fit it in 15 MBs. 425kbps bitrate for a VGA video is not enough, quality will be low, but at least it will fit a 4 minute video in 15 MBs. I would personally recommend stepping down the resolution to 320x240 for best resutls with bitrates of 384 kbps video and 48 kbps audio. That should do it.
KatM wrote on 7/22/2007, 10:32 PM
Sorry I asked Eugenia. I do not want a babysitter as I would like to be able to do this for myself.
Eugenia wrote on 7/22/2007, 10:50 PM
Wow, you obviously have issues. First you sound desperate and when help is at hand, you reply in this manner. My mentioning of opening a new thread about the same issue while this was not needed, still stands. But it was a *friendly* mentioning. I even offered my and my CPU's rendering time in addition to my knowledge about rendering *if* all else fails. In other words, I could lead you step by step on this, even via IM, as I have done for others *if* you were not able to do it yourself.

I guess, you will have to figure it out and do it by yourself now. Good luck.
rustier wrote on 7/22/2007, 11:31 PM
I am jumping on in the middle of this, but I must ask - how are you rendering? If you are new and clicking the make movie button I can see where that can be confusing. If you click file>render as>save as type>click the arrow and select wmv>then click custom - these steps will bring you to the windows Kelly was refering to (did you get that far?). Click the video tab to make the changes you need, then click bit rate and select the changes you need there. You apparently will have to reduce your quality if you are going to get the size where you want it. There is a slider bar you can move to reduce the quality. Is it going to go on a web site? If so you may want to select a smaller size - that works with the web site. You can also change the type of audio to a lesser quality (and less data). I would name your custom templates as trial 1, trial 2, etc. and test them out - keep trying till you find right combination of settings you want. Then rename that template as Kathys internet template - or something like that so all you have to do is select it - with everything already preset.

When you click the make movie button it takes you to just some basic settings - designed for the beginnner.. Rendering can get a bit complicated depending on your source, what you are doing with it and the final product. You will see there are a lot of choices to make on those tabs in the custom window. Vegas Movie Studio has some pretty sophisticated things it can do if you want to explore the possiblities.

I am sorry you are frustrated with your software. There area lot of good people here to help you and there are a lot of tutorials. Vasst is a good site for information and tutorials as well. I hope I am not being too forward, but if I may suggest - If you are on a deadline and your "project" whatever it may be is costing you money, it may be worth your while to take you video to a professional to process it and dispatch it quickly. Then you can arrange some more time to get yourself up to speed with VMS. The good news is that you probably won't have to work too hard to learn it. Good luck with your project!
Chienworks wrote on 7/23/2007, 3:20 AM
Actually, that "quality" slider won't affect the output file size. All that does is specify how much time and effort the encoder should use to create the best looking output at the requested bitrate. So, unless you have a deadline that's already passed there's no reason to ever have that slider set to anything besides maximum.

It's the bitrate settings on the video and audio tabs that determine the file size and nothing else.
MSmart wrote on 7/23/2007, 2:16 PM
Kat, you say your video is about 4 minutes long, right?

Is it possible that when you render (MakeMovie), it's rendering past the end of your video? Do you have "Render Loop Region Only" checked? If so, is it possible you have a loop region selected from the beginning of the video extending beyond the end? Maybe a stretch but something to look at.

What happens if you do try, as a test, creating a 30 second loop region then render just that loop, how does the file size compare to the estimation.

Maybe you said it earlier, but how does your *large* file play in WMP? Does it only play what you expect and it's just the file size that has you hung up?
KatM wrote on 7/23/2007, 11:45 PM
Yay! I have completed the project! I want to thank you all so much for you helpful suggestions and ideas. I have to say without the imput from everyone here it would have not been possible. Thank you all so much!
dibbkd wrote on 7/24/2007, 2:43 AM
So what was the solution that fixed your problem?