Codecs ?? attn SONY people

ritsmer wrote on 7/23/2004, 12:20 AM
I bought the Sony Movie Studio 3.0b a month ago and am very happy with its features and stability. I use it with a Canon Digital Ixus i camera editing its still pictures and video clips. The PC is Intel 2,8 Mhz with 1 MB cache and 1 GB RAM and Win XP proff.
Then I had to format my disc and build everything from scratch since not even my tape backups were reliable (may CWS malware rot in h...).
On this machine I reinstalled Sony MS and was surprised that when I added videoclips only the audio part could be dropped on the time line - not the video part !!
Being a newbie to Video editing I remembered that I had a trial of Pinnaccles video studio before I tried Sonys, so I downloaded the P. trial and -abra cadabra- now the Sony MS could suddenly add the video tracs. One mere good thing: The transitions were now fluent, and not stuttering like before. One bad thing: The Sony MS just disappears from the screen and memory after 5-10 minutes of editing and the work is lost.
I believe these problems are due to the codecs which seem to be in a big pool in Windows and the editing programmes just grab the first found and try to use it.
Acording to the Sony MS specification some (?) codecs are in the package, but looking in Windows XP video codecs I saw none added or changed by the installation.
My Question: How do You keep track of which codecs You use and is there a possibility in Sony MS to pick preferred codecs to use - else it would be a very improving ehancement for next release. Also it would be a good idea with an error message - saying: Can not find applicable codec for the clip You are adding - instead of just confusing the user by doing nothing.
It seems very risky that such a good and stable product as the MS seems to rely 100% on some randomly downloaded codecs of very varying quality.
(Sorry if I just misunderstood all this - I'm just a newbie :-)
PS: Rumor says, that the upcoming version of Windows Movie Maker 2.1 -comes with XP Service Pack 2 in august - has an index where you can check/uncheck which codecs to use...

Comments

SonySCS wrote on 7/23/2004, 8:53 AM
This guy had the same problem you do. Both of you have cameras that create movies in avi having Motion JPEG (mjpeg) video and wave audio.

Screenblast Movie Studio 3.0 does not support mjpeg and so you'll need to get the correct codec. Tracy says, "You need an MJPEG codec. You can obtain one from Morgan Multimedia or MainConcept."

If you have Windows XP, you already have the codec you need. Import your camera's files into XP's Movie Maker and then export them as avi. The avi Movie Maker creates can be read with SB MS 3.

Suzan

ritsmer wrote on 7/23/2004, 1:53 PM
Thanks for the answer, Suzan, and You are right. So far I also solved the problem by getting a codec from Pinnacle - and I know I could have got one from Morgan too. But what bothers me is that the Sony MS seems to look in the Windows Codec pool and just take the first available codec that "says" it can decode the videoclip. It means that if You download any other software - even a trial or some beta version - that comes with some codecs - then the next time You start the Sony MS it will maybe just take theese codecs and maybe behave otherwise as before - maybe even just disappear from your screen every 5-10 minutes of editing.
So what I say is that to me it seems that there are too many maybe's in the way Sony MS finds the necessary codecs and that it should be possible for the user to decide which codecs MS should use - for instance by checking/unchecking them in a list.
Actually it is a matter of only few hours of programming to make a window where You can pick the codecs that Sony MS may use so that it does not just pick one randomly and with unpredictable results but sticks to the codecs picked out by the user (of course the list should be pre filled in with the codecs allowed at the time of installation).
As it is now I am scared to load and install any videosoftware or any other software that might have codecs with it - fearing that my Sony MS projects suddenly start to behave uncontrollably (as it actually does for me now - dying every 5-10 minutes - which is very bad after 1 good month of super stable editing !) and that I must use long time to search and delete the culprit codec.
ChristerTX wrote on 7/30/2004, 2:45 PM
When you render the movie, you can select what codec you use.
Is that what you mean?

I got the DivX codec and is using that as an option when I render to AVI.

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/Forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=302818&Page=0


ritsmer wrote on 8/2/2004, 12:33 AM
Yes, Christer - this feature was what I wanted.
Did not know it was there.
Great what the SONY/Screenblast people have put into this super editor :)