Colour Grading Options for VP?

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AVsupport wrote on 11/8/2017, 12:00 AM

perhaps Magix would consider purchasing, implementing and modifying Filmconvert to make Vegas a better Editor..

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Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

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Wolfgang S. wrote on 11/8/2017, 12:52 AM

MB is powerfull but also painfull. They have added CUDA support in 4, but foro Premier only. It is still slow in Vegas.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

karma17 wrote on 11/9/2017, 2:58 AM

For FilmConvert, sometimes around NAB time and when MyRodeReel comes around, they offer 30% off the cost.

I wasn't sure what you meant by Resolve roundtripping being broke. Also, while Resolve doesn't have all the features of Vegas for editing, it is moving toward becoming a full fledge NLE, at least that's the plan they say.

I shoot CINE 4, CINE. You can color correct in Resolve and render out DNxHD with no loss. Then do whatever you want with that footage. My understanding of 8-bit Hypergammas is that they are not meant to be heavily graded and don't hold up well some times even to modest correction. For me, CINE 4 looks great right out of the camera, and usually just needs an S-curve added if that. That's just my experience.

 

AVsupport wrote on 11/10/2017, 5:43 AM

@karma17, re roundtrip being broke, there's a thread about this here.. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/vegas-15-xml-bug-davinci-media-offlines--108689/#ca672766

I don't really like having to do this, ideally I would love to stay in VP for the entire process thus avoiding transcoding..; and you're right, the cine hypergammas are easier to grade, and not as much prone to crumbling apart like LOG does, even 8bit..as it doesn't try to fit a crazy 14stops into a 7stop data range

And, refreshing to hear someone else using Cine4! [you should check out filmconvert ..!]; although, I'm not brave enough for Cine gammut, this always ended up weired...

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my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.

karma17 wrote on 11/20/2017, 4:49 AM

I see. I don't usually do EDLs and have some testing to do. But more than likely, my future workflow will be to do my color correction in Resolve, then render out in AVC Intra or DNxHD. My understanding is that since Resolve works in 32 bit space, and you have AVC Intra MXF or DNxHD to render out in, it should not recompress or degrade the quality of the footage. Then, with the grading done, I can bring that footage into Vegas, and do the fine cutting there. So, in this way, I get the best of both worlds, the color correction power of Resolve, and the ease of editing I enjoy in Vegas, without degrading the footage. At least, that's how I see round tripping. I believe you only get the AVC Intra option in the Studio version of Resolve. But the good thing with Resolve is that they don't charge you for future versions, at least not at the moment they don't. Honestly, want to run some test between AVC Intra and DNxHD coming out of Resolve and into Vegas. I suppose you could also edit the AVC in Vegas, then pull into Resolve for grading. It is just a matter of preference I think.

AVsupport wrote on 11/20/2017, 5:28 AM

blackfriday sale for filmconvert just came in... 30% off for 1 week ;-)

my current Win10/64 system (latest drivers, water cooled) :

Intel Coffee Lake i5 Hexacore (unlocked, but not overclocked) 4.0 GHz on Z370 chipset board,

32GB (4x8GB Corsair Dual Channel DDR4-2133) XMP-3000 RAM,

Intel 600series 512GB M.2 SSD system drive running Win10/64 home automatic driver updates,

Crucial BX500 1TB EDIT 3D NAND SATA 2.5-inch SSD

2x 4TB 7200RPM NAS HGST data drive,

Intel HD630 iGPU - currently disabled in Bios,

nVidia GTX1060 6GB, always on latest [creator] drivers. nVidia HW acceleration enabled.

main screen 4K/50p 1ms scaled @175%, second screen 1920x1080/50p 1ms.