Just got an email announcing combustion 3 which looks pretty sweet it's still kind of expensive but alot cheaper than it used to be since it dropped down to face AE. I couldn't justify $995.00 but if I had the money I think I would look at it I played with 2.1 demo which was pretty nice and felt alot more natrual then Red or AE even the new Red with integration with Vegas just seems kind of awkward. IMHO.

http://www.discreet.com/products/combustion3/

http://www.discreet.com/docs/products/combustion/combustion3_datasheet.pdf