Considering an upgrade from V15 to V21. Should I bother?

Oki wrote on 3/28/2024, 7:55 AM

I started with version 7 back in 2007 and haven't upgraded from 15. I'm getting the promotion screen to upgrade to the pro suite 21 and considering upgrading, but I'm not sure how my PC will handle it. I use Windows 10 Home, 64-bit OS, i5-4460 CPU @3.2GHz with 20GB RAM. I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti graphics card. I do get a little bit of lag now at times, but I'm fairly happy with how it runs most of the time, so I wondered how bad it will be with V21. Have tweaked it pretty good with all the tutorials on the subject that I've found. Thanks for your advice and input folks.

Sony FDR-X3000, Nikon D750, iPhone13Pro

Vegas Pro 15. (Began with Sony Vegas 7)

Desktop PC Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz  

GA-H97M-D3H (rev. 0.6)

32GB RAM

4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

2 x BenQ Monitors

500GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO (and several backup drives)

 

Comments

Former user wrote on 3/28/2024, 8:03 AM

@Oki These are the recommended specs for VP21, you have a low powered old PC that just meets HD specs but you may struggle with 4k media.

Download the trial version of VP21 & see how it goes..

RogerS wrote on 3/28/2024, 8:03 AM

I'd say maybe. That GPU is supported (I have a GTX 1050 myself) though CPU is quite old. I think the biggest variable is the media- some media decoding is a good bit better than it was in the days of 15.

The Pro Suite's biggest feature is Mocha VEGAS if you do tracking.

Maybe do the trial and test it out on a copy of your latest project?

FayFen wrote on 3/28/2024, 10:34 AM

It's all about your type of work you do with VP

Oki wrote on 3/29/2024, 6:23 AM

Thanks folks. I tired the trial version. It kept crashing. So that answers that for me. One day I might upgrade my computer, then I'll upgrade vegas.

Sony FDR-X3000, Nikon D750, iPhone13Pro

Vegas Pro 15. (Began with Sony Vegas 7)

Desktop PC Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz  

GA-H97M-D3H (rev. 0.6)

32GB RAM

4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

2 x BenQ Monitors

500GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO (and several backup drives)

 

Oki wrote on 4/6/2024, 6:23 AM

I just realised I can add some more RAM, so I've ordered some and will try the trial version again to see how it goes.

Sony FDR-X3000, Nikon D750, iPhone13Pro

Vegas Pro 15. (Began with Sony Vegas 7)

Desktop PC Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz  

GA-H97M-D3H (rev. 0.6)

32GB RAM

4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

2 x BenQ Monitors

500GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO (and several backup drives)

 

Dexcon wrote on 4/6/2024, 6:51 AM

Extra RAM might possibly help with Vegas Pro 15, but it's your CPU which is generations behind for efficient operation of Vegas Pro 21. As per the information already given, Vegas Pro needs an i5 6th gen Intel for HD or an i7 7th gen Intel for 4K (or later in both cases). Based on your original post, your computer is an i5 4th gen Intel.

My previous computer was an i7 4770 with 32GB RAM, and it struggled with Vegas Pro 18 and, as well, Vegas Pro's then new AI VFX did not work at all.

Re Vegas Pro trial versions, you only get one shot at a trial version. Once the trial period has expired, that's the end of it - you don't get a second trial period with that version. You'd have to wait until Vegas Pro 22 is released (August is usually the launch month for a new version) to get access to a new trial version.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

bvideo wrote on 4/6/2024, 12:48 PM

"... you only get one shot at a trial version ..."

So maybe you @Oki could check here about your V21 trial crashes to see if it's your RAM or something else.

john_dennis wrote on 4/6/2024, 4:44 PM

I don't miss Vegas Pro15. I also don't miss the system that I ran in 2014, when your processor was announced or 2017 when your processor was discontinued.

Like it or not, technology is a one-way trip.

Oki wrote on 4/6/2024, 5:48 PM

okay, so i found that an i7 4790K cpu is the best i can upgrade to. i'll check them out.

Sony FDR-X3000, Nikon D750, iPhone13Pro

Vegas Pro 15. (Began with Sony Vegas 7)

Desktop PC Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz  

GA-H97M-D3H (rev. 0.6)

32GB RAM

4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

2 x BenQ Monitors

500GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO (and several backup drives)

 

fr0sty wrote on 4/6/2024, 6:40 PM

That's still below recommended specs.

Systems:

Desktop

AMD Ryzen 7 1800x 8 core 16 thread at stock speed

64GB 3000mhz DDR4

Geforce RTX 3090

Windows 10

Laptop:

ASUS Zenbook Pro Duo 32GB (9980HK CPU, RTX 2060 GPU, dual 4K touch screens, main one OLED HDR)

Dexcon wrote on 4/6/2024, 7:51 PM

And the recommended specs for AI are even higher:

 

Recommended for AI

Operating system

Microsoft® Windows 10 | 11

CPU

10 th Generation Intel Core i7 (or AMD equivalent) or newer

GPU

20xx  GeForce RTX series NVIDIA or 5xxx Radeon RX AMD or newer

RAM

32 GB

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Oki wrote on 4/6/2024, 9:19 PM

thx all. i don't know why tech support is even bothering to assist me with the trial version crashing, unless they really just want to sell the product. if i can just improve my V15 performance, then I'll be happy. see what happens.

Sony FDR-X3000, Nikon D750, iPhone13Pro

Vegas Pro 15. (Began with Sony Vegas 7)

Desktop PC Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz  

GA-H97M-D3H (rev. 0.6)

32GB RAM

4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti

2 x BenQ Monitors

500GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO (and several backup drives)

 

Former user wrote on 4/6/2024, 10:54 PM

thx all. i don't know why tech support is even bothering to assist me with the trial version crashing, unless they really just want to sell the product.

Well depends on if your CPU or the one you were plan to update to really is incompatible with VP21 to the extent it causes it to crash or if it just lacks the CPU instructions it needs for CPU AI introduced in VP18, but in VP21 I think it mostly uses your GPU for AI now, so is that even relevant.

It may not like your IGPU, but you have a discreet GPU, so don't need to use it. The 4790K you were planning on updating to is about as fast as I7 6700, so VP21 wants 6th gen 4 core of 2.4ghz, and your CPU is faster then that.