Control CD ID Number?

JimMSG wrote on 9/12/2007, 11:13 AM
Can the number burned into an audio CD in the DAO Red Book routine be set by the user?

I recently converted a series of cassette church services to CD for a client. When the client started loading them into his iPod he saw all this meaningless information regarding Artist, Album, and Track Names. Obviously, this material coudln't be registered anywhere.

If I burn a data CD I can give the disc a name. Is there a way to give an audio CD a number that isn't going to match up with something in Gracenote? The client isn't real happy about this, and I would like to make sure any discs I make that aren't registered don't show up as ones that are.

Any suggestions?

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rraud wrote on 9/12/2007, 2:19 PM
I'm not sure I follow you. ???
If your referring to Disc name, Artist name, Song / Track name info. This is CD text. (metadata)
I may be wrong but I don't think Vegas supports CD text writing. Don't know about V8.
I do know that CD Arc does support Red Book DAO burns with CD text, as do Nero and Roxio.
JimMSG wrote on 9/13/2007, 10:57 AM
The number I'm referring to is the one that appears when you rip a CD in Vegas.

File Menu - Extract Audio From CD - Select the Tracks - Hit Okay

The first track appears in a dialog where you can give it a new filename and tell Vegas where to park it on your computer. The first thing you see when you do this "CD-" followed by a 10 digit number. I'm wondering where that number comes from and if we have any control over it. I was wondering what if any significance that number has with respect to identifying the disc. I noticed if I make multiple copies of the same disc, even on different days with the computer shut down in between they will all have the same 10 digit number.

I talked to someone who thought the identification process used by Gracenote which is what iTunes goes by, has more to do with the number of tracks on the CD, length, etc. I just told the client, if there were any discs he hadn't already loaded into the computer, to disconnect from the internet before he did them, and to go to the "get information" dialog in iTunes to edit the ones he had already done.

Still one would think there would be something one could do to identify a generic, non-commercial audio CD as such so programs like iTunes didn't assign it meaningless identities.
Kennymusicman wrote on 9/13/2007, 11:44 AM
You can identify stuff fairly well.
Just use the CD info tab to allow you to enter the info into the Gracenote database.

Another trick is to also play it in windows media player, then find CD info, and update the details on there too. It should mostly sort out what you want (I think - working on memory here).

What you particularly want is ISRC codes. You don't have to pay for them if you are a member or certain organisations, otherwise they are cheap. They identify each track uniquely, worldwide. Necessary for airplay.

CD Text is another solution, which Vegas 7 does not support (as mentioned) - this added the extra meta data such as artist etc..
This can be read by anything that supports CD text, which is most programs these days.

I forget where/how your code is generated - however the computer stores a cookie (or sim) based on the CD, so when you update items such as in media player, it can recognise them much quicker.

HTH

Ken