So I have started to edit a feature with VV 4.0c and I am hoping to actually be able to do the whole thing with VV so I can prove that VV can be used for this. Thusly just a few first thoughts/questions.
1> First freeze up was after I named bins (because as far as I can tell I am unable to just import the folder as a bin) and brought in the media from all the same named folders. Then I saved the project. The next time I opened the project VV had to load all files in the bins (?) as it said "loading 1 of..." "loading 2 of..." and so on. It got up to about 200 and it locked up. Had to reboot. When I reopened the project it seemd to pick up where it left off - loaded all media in the bins witn no lock up. Now everytime I open the project it does not say "loading 1 of..." but it does take a while to load the project, even before I had anything on the timeline. Is this normal? Is it a bug? I mean freezing when loading media into bins. This topic has been touched on before in reguards to stills but thus far this project contains no stills, only DV files.
2> Weird lock up here - I was moving a file on the track. I right clicked on an event and started to drag it to the right. Now I wish I could be exact with telling you what I did more but I can't because all I wanted to do was just drag the clip and what ended up happening is VV took over and just "ran" with the clip...by itself...in slow motion. I could not stop it. VV took over the entire system with this neat little trick...ctl+alt+del did nothing. I had to shut down the computer. Bug? Anyone else have this happen to them? To give a visual - VV was still "running" the timeline was moving to the right, the clip was moving (being dragged) to the right. It "locked" onto the mouse cursor and away it went with no help from me.
3> Just a little issue with the bins that may have been mentioned before. If you add an event to the timeline and decide you don't want it you 'go back'. Now what happens when you choose Edit > Undo Media Drop in Track (Ctrl+Z) is the
Bins redraw and dump you out into the 'All Media' section, NOT the single folder you were working in. A minor hassle but still something that hopefully can be 'fixed'. The redraw only happens, and happens everytime, when you do the "Undo Media Drop in Track" method.
4> The preset issue. You save audio or video preset and when you go into another user the presets are not there. In itself this is fine, no problems. But the issues become having an easy way to load these presets on A) Another system B) Another user (log in on same system or on a network). Currently the 'easy' way is to go into regedit and export the settings and then load those settings on the other users system, or just the other users log-in. How hard would it be to just be able to load a preset for a folder *and* actually be able to located that folder from within VV? In case that wasn't fully clear - With any of the save options (Audio, Video, Video track FX [Filter Packages]) Why can't you A) Choose a folder to save the preset in B) be able to open that folder and preset in another VV project on another system or user? (And no, dragging the preset folder over alone will not do it. You need to drag the folder over and export the reg tree for that entry)
5> The whole locking audio/video, ripple edit and so on could be better. It seems to work when it feels like it. For example I can re-size an event from the left and the audio and video are fine. Sometimes If I want to move the entire event left or right/up or down, the video or audio will move alone. If I decide I want to delete an event and I hit the 'delete' key, unless I am carefull to highlight both video AND audio, only one or the other will be deleted. Other times the auto ripple fuction doesn't want to do what it should - you can drop in an event and instead of everything pushing back, the video will just overlay what you already have but the audio will push back. Sometimes all I want to do is drop in an overlay, on a new track, and unless I turn off the Auto Ripple everything will push back. In other words sometimes it works the right way and other times when you want it to work the right way it doesn't. It is random and yes I have "ignore event grouping" on when I want to adjust picture but not audio, or vice versa, and yes I have the "All Tracks, Markers, and Regions" selected and so on. For me I think this is probably a combination of things - Proably the concept of Assemble edit and Insert Edit applies here but I don't see a way to just "insert Audio" or "insert video". Yes you can select "Affected track" but the problem is sometimes you want to just insert video with no audio and have all tracks move accordingly. Other times you want to insert video into a track and not have anything move. In both these cases you are forced to bring in audio and than delete it. Not sure what would be and easy solution to this. I know with Premiere it is sort of automatic - if you have the ripple set to on if you drop an event onto a track with video it will push back all tracks and, without changing any settings, if you drop an event above a track it will not push back anything. Also you can lock off audio or video tracks so when you want to drop on audio or video only that is what it will do. You can Mute or Solo with VV but you don't seem to be able to lock a track. An event, yes. The entire project, yes. But just locking one track - no. (Ok - selecting all events on a track you could do it, but a simple "track lock button" would be easier) Like I said this is sort of a lot of things under one roof so to speak, and that is part of it for me as well. Instead of several different buttons and drop downs it would be easier, I feel, to just have a universal "sync" type button. "On" would mean audio and video that are brought in together stay togeter - delete the event and both audio and video go bye-bye, move the event and both audio and video move and so on. "Off" would mean you could move, delete, cut the audio or video seperate. As for the ripple edit - It works, sort of, as is. But maybe have the concept of 'assemble' and 'insert' worked into it better and tie it into video and/or audio insert.
Ok, now I am ready for the "What are you crazy? This is how it works" comments. :)
Thanks
1> First freeze up was after I named bins (because as far as I can tell I am unable to just import the folder as a bin) and brought in the media from all the same named folders. Then I saved the project. The next time I opened the project VV had to load all files in the bins (?) as it said "loading 1 of..." "loading 2 of..." and so on. It got up to about 200 and it locked up. Had to reboot. When I reopened the project it seemd to pick up where it left off - loaded all media in the bins witn no lock up. Now everytime I open the project it does not say "loading 1 of..." but it does take a while to load the project, even before I had anything on the timeline. Is this normal? Is it a bug? I mean freezing when loading media into bins. This topic has been touched on before in reguards to stills but thus far this project contains no stills, only DV files.
2> Weird lock up here - I was moving a file on the track. I right clicked on an event and started to drag it to the right. Now I wish I could be exact with telling you what I did more but I can't because all I wanted to do was just drag the clip and what ended up happening is VV took over and just "ran" with the clip...by itself...in slow motion. I could not stop it. VV took over the entire system with this neat little trick...ctl+alt+del did nothing. I had to shut down the computer. Bug? Anyone else have this happen to them? To give a visual - VV was still "running" the timeline was moving to the right, the clip was moving (being dragged) to the right. It "locked" onto the mouse cursor and away it went with no help from me.
3> Just a little issue with the bins that may have been mentioned before. If you add an event to the timeline and decide you don't want it you 'go back'. Now what happens when you choose Edit > Undo Media Drop in Track (Ctrl+Z) is the
Bins redraw and dump you out into the 'All Media' section, NOT the single folder you were working in. A minor hassle but still something that hopefully can be 'fixed'. The redraw only happens, and happens everytime, when you do the "Undo Media Drop in Track" method.
4> The preset issue. You save audio or video preset and when you go into another user the presets are not there. In itself this is fine, no problems. But the issues become having an easy way to load these presets on A) Another system B) Another user (log in on same system or on a network). Currently the 'easy' way is to go into regedit and export the settings and then load those settings on the other users system, or just the other users log-in. How hard would it be to just be able to load a preset for a folder *and* actually be able to located that folder from within VV? In case that wasn't fully clear - With any of the save options (Audio, Video, Video track FX [Filter Packages]) Why can't you A) Choose a folder to save the preset in B) be able to open that folder and preset in another VV project on another system or user? (And no, dragging the preset folder over alone will not do it. You need to drag the folder over and export the reg tree for that entry)
5> The whole locking audio/video, ripple edit and so on could be better. It seems to work when it feels like it. For example I can re-size an event from the left and the audio and video are fine. Sometimes If I want to move the entire event left or right/up or down, the video or audio will move alone. If I decide I want to delete an event and I hit the 'delete' key, unless I am carefull to highlight both video AND audio, only one or the other will be deleted. Other times the auto ripple fuction doesn't want to do what it should - you can drop in an event and instead of everything pushing back, the video will just overlay what you already have but the audio will push back. Sometimes all I want to do is drop in an overlay, on a new track, and unless I turn off the Auto Ripple everything will push back. In other words sometimes it works the right way and other times when you want it to work the right way it doesn't. It is random and yes I have "ignore event grouping" on when I want to adjust picture but not audio, or vice versa, and yes I have the "All Tracks, Markers, and Regions" selected and so on. For me I think this is probably a combination of things - Proably the concept of Assemble edit and Insert Edit applies here but I don't see a way to just "insert Audio" or "insert video". Yes you can select "Affected track" but the problem is sometimes you want to just insert video with no audio and have all tracks move accordingly. Other times you want to insert video into a track and not have anything move. In both these cases you are forced to bring in audio and than delete it. Not sure what would be and easy solution to this. I know with Premiere it is sort of automatic - if you have the ripple set to on if you drop an event onto a track with video it will push back all tracks and, without changing any settings, if you drop an event above a track it will not push back anything. Also you can lock off audio or video tracks so when you want to drop on audio or video only that is what it will do. You can Mute or Solo with VV but you don't seem to be able to lock a track. An event, yes. The entire project, yes. But just locking one track - no. (Ok - selecting all events on a track you could do it, but a simple "track lock button" would be easier) Like I said this is sort of a lot of things under one roof so to speak, and that is part of it for me as well. Instead of several different buttons and drop downs it would be easier, I feel, to just have a universal "sync" type button. "On" would mean audio and video that are brought in together stay togeter - delete the event and both audio and video go bye-bye, move the event and both audio and video move and so on. "Off" would mean you could move, delete, cut the audio or video seperate. As for the ripple edit - It works, sort of, as is. But maybe have the concept of 'assemble' and 'insert' worked into it better and tie it into video and/or audio insert.
Ok, now I am ready for the "What are you crazy? This is how it works" comments. :)
Thanks