Crash when redering 3D Blu-ray Disc from Vegas

Haosen wrote on 8/27/2012, 7:54 AM
Hi, everybody, I use HXR—NX3D1E 3D Camcorder for shooting 3D footage and use VP11 64bit version 683 for editing in Win7 enterprise 64bit.
I had followed the official instruction for solving Troubleshooting Crashing In Vegas Pro 11(please see here https://www.custcenter.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5098/session/L3RpbWUvMTM0NjA2OTY3MC9zaWQvaFV6R0JLNGw%3D)
And everything work well even I add many plug-in into my 3D clip.
the length of my movie is only 8 minutes, 1080i50,side by side (full size).

When I want to export the whole movie through the tool--burn--burn to blu-ray disc, and there is only three choice for me to select.

1280*720 60p
1280*720 30p
1920*1080 24p
All formats are Sony AVC/MP4

So I choose the template as below:
1920*1080, 24p
Sony wave w64 (48k Hz, 16bits, as same as my project properties)

Then the Vegas began to render a ISO image file, tooooooooooooo frustrated, when the Vegas finished rendering the Video Track and was going to render the audio track, it crashed.

I tried to figure it out and search for some solutions but till now, no result.

Does anybody could help me?

Thanks!!!!!

Comments

nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 8:43 AM
When I try to burn 3D project which is longer then 1 hour from timeline, the process can crash during video rendering or even after 17 hours of successful video rendering when it starts to render audio. The only one way to make such blu-rays for me so far is to render left and right view and audio separately, combine them into new project and burn 3D blu-ray from timeline. I also use 64 bit Vegas Pro 11.
Haosen wrote on 8/27/2012, 8:56 AM
BUT, how to render a full size side by side true-3D blu-ray disc?

Is that method working well on redering true-3D blu-ray disc?
nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 9:16 AM
This process creates standard full resolution 3D blu-ray disk – it contains two video streams with full 1920x1080 resolutions. (How they call it - Frame alternative?) It is not Full side by side format where 2 HD streams packed in one stream with frame size of 3840x1080. But Vegas and DVD architect currently can not create standard 3D blu-ray with menu. So, those disks are auto play disks – insert it to the player and it will start from the beginning.
nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 9:28 AM
Actually, two streams of standard 3D blu-ray are left view and dependent view which is difference between left and right views. Player decodes them into full HD left and right streams.
Haosen wrote on 8/27/2012, 9:32 AM
Great!!!
Could you please show us the detail workflow for this?
nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 9:50 AM
After finishing editing:
1) Render left view using XDCAM 35 megabit template with audio off.
2) Render right view using same template.
3) If in steps 1 and 2 you can render all views in one rendering process, go to step 5
4) If you weren’t able to render views in one step – render them by parts. Be careful – total number of frames should be the same in both views. It doesn’t matter if you have left view and right view in different number of peaces. Create projects to combine all left parts and all rights parts into a single big files. Use same video template. Vegas will do concatenation only – it will not recompress video.
5) Render audio.
6) Combine views and audio to the new project. Pair left and right as stereoscopic sub clip.
7) Burn 3D blu-ray from timeline.

Somebody may have improvements for the process – it is very welcome.

nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 9:55 AM
For rendering audio use Sony wave w64 5.1
Haosen wrote on 8/27/2012, 10:12 AM
Why use XDCAM 35M bits?

And I know how to pair left and right as stereoscopic sub clip, but how would I do after that? I mean that in the step7, burn 3D blu-ray disc from tool---burn ?

I still have to reder a ISO first before burning.

Another question, is that you meaning I have to create two video track in the new project file? What about the 3D mode for the new project file? Also Side by Side (FULL)??

BTW, as my movie was only 8 minutes, and I had mixed 5 audio track into one audio track by "render as" with the format of "Sony W64", then I copied the project file and import the "mixed' audio track instead of the original 5 tracks,
I am sure the property of the new audio track is as same as the project property and the true-3D template.

The Sony engineer told me that the more render times, the more quality lost.

I am not sure your method is indeed a good choice, especially for purchasing best video quality.

Anyway, great thanks for your detailed reply. I would have a try tmr. with your method, and wish it could work well.

Thanks. and Thanks!!!

nsbma wrote on 8/27/2012, 11:02 AM
>Why use XDCAM 35M bits?
I have Sony HDR TD-10 – it packed two streams into 28 megabit, I believe that rendering each stream at 35 megabit will preserve quality.

>And I know how to pair left and right as stereoscopic sub clip, but how would I do after >that? I mean that in the step7, burn 3D blu-ray disc from tool---burn ?
Yes – burn from tool, use AVC/MVC 25 megabit template.

>I still have to reder a ISO first before burning.
Yes – to burn ISO use Windows 7 – right click on ISO file and burn.

>Another question, is that you meaning I have to create two video track in the new >project file? What about the 3D mode for the new project file? Also Side by Side >(FULL)??
Never use Side by Side. For editing, import video using Anaglyph Red/Cyan mode.
Switch to Left only for edit video. Switch back to anaglyph for the last step – adjust 3D parallax.
When you render to separate views – use Left or Right Only mode.
When you combine parts into single file – use 3D mode Off.
When you combine views and audio and create ISO – also use Anaglyph.

>BTW, as my movie was only 8 minutes, and I had mixed 5 audio track into one audio >track by "render as" with the format of "Sony W64", then I copied the project file and >import the "mixed' audio track instead of the original 5 tracks,
>I am sure the property of the new audio track is as same as the project property and the >true-3D template.
Render audio as 5.1 and import to final project with views. Audio setting in the project should be 5.1


>The Sony engineer told me that the more render times, the more quality lost.
That’s true.

>I am not sure your method is indeed a good choice, especially for purchasing best video >quality.
It is possible render left and right view using other formats (Cineform etc.), which generate huge files, but my source is from Sony HDR-TD10 – amateur camera – looks good after the process. Still photos from Fuji W3 looks much better in the results.