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Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/24/2005, 8:32 AM
Many thanks Wolfgang - how do your enhancments benefit the user?

Or - improve upon John Meyers' scripts?

Bit
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/24/2005, 8:46 AM
JohnMeyer,

Now, the scripts do nto work at all on another video...

Error message :- "Object reference not set to an instance of an object."

Any offer of guidance??

Bit
Wolfgang S. wrote on 7/24/2005, 8:49 AM
Well, originally John has developed one script to delete from cursor to event start. That was for Vegas-4.

We have added another script, that deletes also from cursor to event end. So, you have two scripts that you can put on a jogshuttle in an ideal way.

You can develop a clear workflow based on such an approach:

- captured with automatic scene selection. For old, analog material, or HDV-material, apply AV-Cutty
- bring the events in the timeline
- go through the events. If you thinkt that you do not need a first part of an event, delete it with "delete_up_to_cursor". The cursor is set back to the start point of the remaining event. Continue.
- if you think that you come to a point, when you want to delete anything behind the cursor, apply the other script - "deleteAfterCursor". Cursor will be at the top of the next event.
- if you think that you have to split an event, apply "S"

Ripple edit is not important here at all - the scripts work in a different way.

I want to point out that all this is based on Johns original scipt. With thank to him.

If you put that commands on a contour jogshuttle, you become terrible fast. I user for example "ctrl(strg)+1" and "ctrl(strg)+2" for those two scripts. A lot of people in our German forums have purchased the cheaper Jogshuttle, coming with the Hercules DV Action! Pro package. It is the same as by Contour in the Version "Pro" (not Pro 2), but it is cheaper.

And: unfortunately, Sony has changed the script language - so, there are now versions that work for Vegas4, Vegas5 and Vegas6. Take care what version you use.

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HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Lili wrote on 7/24/2005, 8:58 AM


RE: "Once all unwanted info. is removed, can you resave the file under the same file name with same extension?"

I always use "save as" as I reach a point in editing that is about halfway and call the file whatever I've named it, plus a number (1,2,3 etc) for as many times as I do a "save as". That way I have the original and the latest edited version(s) in case something crashes or mysteriously disappears.

You don't have to give it an extension. It will automatically save as a .veg file, but be sure to note WHERE you are saving it to (what drive, folder, etc.) for ease of retrieval later on.


Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/24/2005, 3:51 PM
JohnMeyer- ?Are u able to read my post - I am unable to work the scripts..
johnmeyer wrote on 7/24/2005, 4:33 PM
Use forum search. Asked and answered many times. It is a bug in Vegas. Here's one answer:

Object reference not set to an instance of an object
Bit Of Byte wrote on 7/29/2005, 9:05 AM
Attn Wolfgang S.

Re: "If you put that commands on a contour jogshuttle, you become terrible fast. I user for example "ctrl(strg)+1" and "ctrl(strg)+2" for those two scripts. A lot of people in our German forums have purchased the cheaper Jogshuttle, coming with the Hercules DV Action! Pro package. It is the same as by Contour in the Version "Pro" (not Pro 2), but it is cheaper..."

What other advantages do i gain when using a jogshuttle?

Can i use it outside of editing applications?


Bit
Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 6:16 AM
Hi Wolfgang.

I wrote to you on 24 July 2005 about cutting out video.

I have downloaded the scripts you referred to but now do not know how to action these scripts when in use?

ANy help?

Bit
Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/10/2005, 7:06 AM
Sorry, but I have not seen any email. Where did you send it?

Imagine following workflow:

If you use a jogshuttle, make sure to put 3 commandos on the buttons:
- ctrl+1 (one script, delete up to cursor)
- ctrl+2 (second script, delete after cursor)
- S (to cut an event)

in addition, start playback is usefull to. So put (enter) and (shift) on buttoms.

I tend to use following settings for the Jogshuttle:

1 Ctrl+left arrow/ go left to start of track
2 Ctrl+Alt+left arrow/go left to start of event
3 Ctrl+Alt+Right arrow/ go right to end of event
4 Ctrl+Right arrow/ro right to end of track

5-9 unchanged, since trimm edit can be usefull too (original settings in jogshuttle driver 2.0.0.150)

10 Enter/play, break
12 Space/play, stop

11 script 1 (mit Ctrl+1)
13 script 2 (mit Ctrl+2)


So, now the workflow:

- you sort your clips in the sequence, as you want to have them in your video. Can take place either in the bin-structure, but also in the timeline.

- bring them in the timeline. In the sequence, as desired
- now start to go through an event, e.g by starting playback or using the jogshuttle.

If the cursor comes to a point, where you want to keep the part of the event before the cursor, apply DeleteAfterCursor. Then the script deletes anything from the start of the event, until the position of the cursor.

When the cursor comes to a point, where you wish to keep the material after the cursor, apply the script DeleteUpToCursor. Then you keep the material behind the cursor, up to the end of the event.

If you need to split an event, apply "S".

Have fun!

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

cyanidekid wrote on 8/10/2005, 7:53 AM
Hey Bit of Byte- RTFM? Or use Windows Movie Maker
Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 8:30 AM
Many thanks ...

I am thinking of buying the COntour Shuttle soon...

What other applications can the shuttle be used for (besides editing)?

Manuals can be complex beasts...
Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/10/2005, 8:45 AM
Within a lot of Apps - but frankly spoken, I use it mainly for cutting, either within Vegas or Edius. Not for the MSP, here the driver does not work well. Within Premiere, the Jogshuttle behaves very well, too.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 10:57 AM
WOlfgang,

I have assigned hot keys to these two scripts but the hotkeys will not register when i want to perform the function..?

How do I make these hot keys register when working with Vegas ..?

Bit
Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 11:34 AM
Ponderings....
Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/10/2005, 12:16 PM
You have to assign the settings to Vegas as application.

Open controll pannel, then options/change target application.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 12:22 PM
Thanks Wolfgang.

I am getting the hang of these scripts now... Pretty cool!

Now, when using Split events "S", I do not understand what script I can use here..?

What is the best way of cutting a slice out and molding the remaining pieces back together so no gaps exist?

Bit
Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 12:27 PM
WOlfgang,

With respect to your solution of keyboard shortcuts - Control panel etc.

I do not understand - Is this COntrol Panel in WIndows or VEGAS?

If COntrol Panel - I see Folder Options and Power Options -

I am a bit confused...

Chienworks wrote on 8/10/2005, 12:49 PM
If you're using split to cut out a section you don't need to use any scripts at all. Split at the beginning and end of the section, enable ripple edits, delete the section, done.

In fact, you don't even need to split! You can highlight a section by dragging the mouse from beginning to end of the section on a non-track area of the timeline, then press the Delete key. With ripple edits enabled, this removes that section and moves everything to the right over to fill in the space.
Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 12:58 PM
Many thanks CHienworks - I was unsure if one had to use 'S' with the scripts..?

Cleared up now...

Would you know why I am unabel to use keyboard shortcuts for the srcipts? - What must I do to enable these shortcuts?

I have already assigned letter to these scripts in the preferences part..

Bit
jetdv wrote on 8/10/2005, 1:36 PM
Bit, there are several "Contexts" for the keystrokes. Did you pick the right one? For example, there's Global, TrackView, TrackList, Explorer, Trimmer, Mixer, etc...

Also, are you trimming on the timeline or in the trimmer? Scripts won't work with the trimmer.
Wolfgang S. wrote on 8/10/2005, 1:45 PM
It is the control panel in the driver of the jogshuttle.

I do not use "S" a lot - but sometimes it is helpful. And yes, there are different solutions, it depends a little bit what you like in your workflow. You see, I have not mentioned it at all in the list above.

To speed up for a rough cutting, it is important to avoid that you have to switch between the jogshuttle, keyboard and mouse. So, I tend to have all major parts on the jogshuttle. Left hand on the jogshuttle, right hand on the mouse. And then you become terrible fast in a rough cutting, since you do not have to switch your hands any more.

Desktop: PC AMD 3960X, 24x3,8 Mhz * RTX 3080 Ti (12 GB)* Blackmagic Extreme 4K 12G * QNAP Max8 10 Gb Lan * Resolve Studio 18 * Edius X* Blackmagic Pocket 6K/6K Pro, EVA1, FS7

Laptop: ProArt Studiobook 16 OLED * internal HDR preview * i9 12900H with i-GPU Iris XE * 32 GB Ram) * Geforce RTX 3070 TI 8GB * internal HDR preview on the laptop monitor * Blackmagic Ultrastudio 4K mini

HDR monitor: ProArt Monitor PA32 UCG-K 1600 nits, Atomos Sumo

Others: Edius NX (Canopus NX)-card in an old XP-System. Edius 4.6 and other systems

Bit Of Byte wrote on 8/10/2005, 4:05 PM
JetDV - I did it under "Edit Details". SHould I have done it in Trimmer?

ANd, I think I am trimming in the timeline - Where/how do I know if I am trimming in the trimmer?

Bit
jetdv wrote on 8/10/2005, 8:30 PM
Try under TrackView.
Chienworks wrote on 8/10/2005, 8:52 PM
Well, i could say you are trimming in the timeline if you are trimming in the timeline, and you are trimming in the trimmer if you are trimming in the trimmer. ;)

The timeline is the big area across the top of the screen with all the tracks that make up your project. You may trim events here.

The trimmer is sometimes seen in a smaller window at the bottom of the screen and shows only one event (possibly just audio, just video, or audio & video together). You may also trim events here.