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decrink wrote on 10/24/2003, 1:43 AM
Why not just copy and paste the clips that have the parameters you like then edit the text to what you need.
Grazie wrote on 10/24/2003, 1:43 AM
Zipps - have you tried doing the Copy>Paste Attributes thing? That is, move cursor to the event - in this case the Text event you wanna copy - click Copy, move to the text Event you want to be changed, select that event, right click and Paste Attributes. Any good? I've done this with other things . . . . give it a go!

The other thing to do is to make a copy of the text event you like - paste it where you want it, and then Edit the message in the text editor tab - yeah?

Regards,

Grazie
Grazie wrote on 10/24/2003, 1:47 AM
Zipps - Making copies of what you want and then editing is the way to go. What I have trouble in understanding is why you think you need to make Presets, OR maybe you have a very good reason to making presets - ie making them globally available. Good reason!

Grazie
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/24/2003, 2:53 AM
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Grazie wrote on 10/24/2003, 2:56 AM
Okay . .. how much success have you had in achieving "saving" a text preset? What can you keep? What can't you keep? I've had some success with saving Presets . . . what have you been able to achieve so far? I'm listening . . .

G
Udi wrote on 10/24/2003, 3:26 AM
The problem with text preset is that it saves the text with all the attributes.
What is needed is an option to save all the attributes - like font, size, placement, shadow, color etc - but leave the text out. This way you can reload a preset on an existing text and it will change the attributes while saving the text.
Intresting, some of the system presets are working in this way, they change the attributes but not the text.

Udi
DGrob wrote on 10/24/2003, 6:47 AM
If you copy a reference to the event and paste elsewhere and then alter the text, you might be able to use the media pool version of the original text event to effect a change across all timeline copies. Click of the media original event and chose "replace," I'm gonna try this back on Vegas tonight 'cause I have the same problem Zippy refers to . . . multiple copies scattered throughout a project that I'd like to alter in some minor way (if I understand it right). DGrob
arie wrote on 10/24/2003, 9:13 AM
That is one feature that is not there. When you right click on the FX icon, there SHOULD be an option to copy paramaters, or save as preset. You can save individual presets with each effect, but not as a group.

I just creating a template with the way I want the multi-fx to be setup and go from there.
Skevos_Mavros wrote on 10/24/2003, 2:11 PM
Zippy mostly-politely said:

* I have many generated text media
* clips all of which need the same
* color, outline, shadow, etc BUT
* they need to say DIFFERENT
* things.

So I'm guessing that you've already created the text events, but now you want to make them all have the same style? You're right in that Vegas' "Paste Event Attributes" feature doesn't work that way (it seems to paste things like FX, not text styles). Maybe this should be a feature request?

It would also be cool if one could right-click an event and choose FX and other prests from the pop-up menu directly, without having to copy a single event's attributes into the clipboard first. Mind you, that could make for a long and messy pop-up menu. But back to your problem:

* I tried saving a
* "preset" hoping that it would
* save me some time, but when I go
* to apply it to a different clip
* it changes the TEXT as well.

I agree - that's not what I would have expected from a text preset change either! It would have expected it to replace everything EXCEPT the text itself. Mind you, that's easy for me to say, but it's complicated by the fact that Vegas allows different font sizes and styles within one text event - what should be over-ridden by the preset and what shouldn't?

Here's what I do in your situation:

. Click the "Generated Media" icon on the event
. Hit CONTROL-A (to select all your text)
. Hit CONTROL-C (to copy the text to the clipboard)
. Choose the preset you've created (your text is replaced as well)
. Hit TAB (to return to the text field)
. Hit CONTROL-A (to select all the text)
. Hit CONTROL-V (to paste your original text back in)
. Hit BACKSPACE (because Vegas seems to insert an extra carriage return when pasting text into the text box - this seems to be a bug, though I haven't yet reported it as such)

You could, of course, do all of the above with the mouse, but once you get into the groove of doing it with the keyboard (click-A-C click-TAB-A-V-BS) it's a lot faster. Mind you, none of my projects have "hundreds" of text events - what on earth are you working on? :-)

* Is
* what I'm trying to do possible
* or am I again SOL?

Come on now Zippy, I'm replying to you because you're being polite lately, but this last bit of your post, and another more recent one, is starting to turn back to the old Zippy again. If you breathe deeply and stay calm and polite, I for one am happy to help you out with your Vegas problems, as I'm sure many others are. Just keep the 'tude to yourself! :-)

All the best,



Skevos Mavros
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http://www.mavart.com
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/24/2003, 8:46 PM
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Spot|DSE wrote on 10/24/2003, 9:37 PM
Zippy, please provide a real example of what you are doing.
If it's a Text parameter, you can save all the parameters in a blank Generated Media preset.
If it's an FX parameter, you can save everything exactly as you need it. But the two aren't the same. One is generated media, the other is FX, and they behave differently.
ZippyGaloo wrote on 10/24/2003, 10:00 PM
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Udi wrote on 10/25/2003, 3:31 AM
Youe method will also pastet the font type and size with the text. So it is a partial solution.

Udi
Grazie wrote on 10/25/2003, 4:56 AM
Zipps, which element of the bovine excrement are you alluding to?

It would be of greater value, in my understanding and discernment, both to myself and I guess to those assisting with a solution, if you could specifically determine and then delineate for the rest of us the precise element of the faeces that you find incredulous. I can not speak for others here, but I am loathe to reduce your obvious scepticism or uncertainty as to functionality of this digital platform, as your expertise, in apparently discovering items that may require further illumination, could possibly provide a further understanding for this most humble editor. Might I also add that I neither wish to reduce your voracity in your aspiration in ascertaining a solution most appropriate to your present state of your principal and noticeable dissatisfaction?

I often need to apply much due diligence when I attempt to be precise to the specific element, which could be causing me such consternation. I’ll be honest here, in as much, that I do find the whole process of relating this fully and understandably, in the written form, most frustrating and often without much pleasure. I would like to think that you might concur with my conclusions.

My very best regards,

Grazie
Skevos_Mavros wrote on 10/25/2003, 7:04 AM
Udi said:

> Youe method will also pastet the font type and
> size with the text. So it is a partial solution.

Quite correct. Sorry if I wan't clear about that (I mentioned it in passing but not as part of my steps). I strongly suspect that the Text Event preset's habit of replacing the text when the preset is changed is a bug in Vegas - I say that only because the built in presets don't replace the text, only the user-created ones (as someone else inthis thread pointed out). Seems a bit inconsistent to me.

Zippy said:

> THAT'S A BUNCH OF BS!!

Heh heh - good one! I responded to your question constructively and asked you not to display your old attitude ("'tude" is short for "attitude"), and you respond by posting in all caps again. I think you're just joking around this time, right? :-)

Anyway, I hope my tip was of some use to you, and I really am happy to help out with Vegas issues - many of your questions are similar to the ones asked by the students I teach, so I often understand where you're coming from.

All the best,



Skevos Mavros
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