Discovered a problem with Vegas 5.0b

StormCrow wrote on 8/9/2004, 3:23 PM

I've been editing video on my computer using Vegas 5.0b which I fairly recently upgraded to along with DVDA 2.0. I noticed that I'm getting some "clear like" pixelation in segments of my clips when previewing but mostly when viewing in the timeline. If I scrub through it in the timeline the pixelation is not as bad but in the worst spots is still there. I have not been able to figure this out and thought perhaps the tape was bad so I hooked the camera directly up to a TV and it played perfect. I then figured that maybe it was a bad capture even though Vegas said that 0 frames were dropped. Today I decided to view the clips using Vegas 4.0 and guess what? Every clip played perfectly! No pixelation patches or anything! Anyone else experienced this and if so how did you fix it? In the mean time I'm headed back to Vegas 4 until all these bugs are worked out.

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[r]Evolution wrote on 8/10/2004, 12:55 AM

I have also experienced this. Here's my thread on pretty much the same thing:

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=302885

You can see what was suggested to me.

StormCrow wrote on 8/10/2004, 6:00 AM

Dennis, thanks and it definately sounds like a Vegas 5.0 problem to me since it plays fine in every other format including Vegas 4.0. I'm also using the Maxell tapes (SamsClub, great price and the tapes have been great for me) and Sony VX2000 and VX2100's. When this happens in Vegas can you hear your HD kind of stutter and then catch up? I do and then it might play fine for a little bit and then do it again. It also made it out to the final project and now I'm going to have to re-edit the whole thing in Vegas 4.0 in order to get rid of it :(

StormCrow wrote on 8/10/2004, 10:42 AM

This was a response I got from another web forum with regard to the problem I am having with Vegas 5.0b:

Interesting that this was brought up. I had the same thing happen to me Sat nite. (Planets in some strange order?)

I have a tape I used about 3 yrs ago. recorded in LP (dont ask). I needed to capture it last sat. placed it in my DSR11, brought up vegas to capture looked great during the capture. went back into vegas to edit and the video was junk. all blocky. couldnt even make out a picture.
Ok. brought out my sony mini dv cam. DSR30 or something like that. small thing. (btw I gathered the image on my VX2000.)
Same exact thing happened. looked great during capture, junk in final file.

3rd times a charm. got my VX2k out, (been having problems with this cam, thats why i didnt use it at first to capture),
Captured with it and it was fine.
I know that it was recorded in LP mode on my VX2K and would have difficutly playing back on any other cam due to head alignment. But the odd thing is that in the video preview in Vegas capture, it looks fine. But the recording is all jacked up.
Very odd.
What worries me more, is that I need to send my VX2k in to get repaired, and if they replace the heads, how many old tape will never be playable again?

Mark

Makes you wonder.....Vegas 4 here I come....again!

michael_morlan wrote on 8/11/2004, 3:07 PM

I'm encountering similar problems during capture.

JVC GY-DV500 as tape source - 30% of captured cuts are garbage, although the "garbage" looks the same between cuts. Similar blockiness. Also, the DV500 as trouble shuttling the tape and delivering smooth timecode to the PC.

Canon XL-1 as tape source - Audio drop-outs 100% of the time.

I'm guessing this is a hardware issue - perhaps my $10 FireWire card or somesuch.

Michael

farss wrote on 8/11/2004, 3:32 PM

Most likely this has nothing to do with the firewire card, not saying it's impossible but highly unlikely. Most likely it's a guide alignment issue and most probably the camera is at fault. Different VCRs seem to do a better job of tracking problem tapes and mostly the Sony VCRs are not the best in this area apart from the DSR 2000 and you don't want to know how much they cost. Some of the Panasonic decks that also handle DVCPRO are pretty good at recovering dodgy tapes.
But either way the important thing is once you've got a good capture save it to DVD. I don't mean as a DVD-Video I mean as a DVD-ROM. Split the TL into 20 min segements and render out as separate clips. Burn the resulting AVIs to DVD using Nero or whatever. Please use GOOD DVDs.
Now you can throw the tape in the bin. The DVDs let you reload the your source material very quickly. I tend to allow a 5 frame overlap so I can put a small cross fade on the audio to avoid any glitches when I join the clips together later.

I wouldn't put too much faith in what you see in the VidCap preview window either, it is only a preview so you can see wht you're capturing, the program has more important tasks at hand than showing every frame accurately.

Bob.