Does the Mocha Hitfilm Add-on from FXHome work inside Vegas Pro 19?

Glen-Smith wrote on 4/16/2022, 12:37 PM

Hi All,

I was browsing some old comments about Vegas Post in the Hitfilm forums and John Foll made a comment that peaked my interest. He seemed to imply that with a folder change in the location of the Moch Hitfilm Add-on for Hitfilm Express plugin, he got it working inside Vegas Pro 18.

"I found out that Mocha wasn't showing up in Vegas, but today I found out if I copy the mochaHitFilm6.ofx.bundle folder from C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\HitFilmPro to C:\Program Files\Common Files\OFX\Plugins folder that Vegas could use mochaHitFilm6."

Here's the entire thread

https://community.fxhome.com/discussion/54210/vegas-post-18-vs-vegas-pro-hitfilm-pro-ignite-pro-imerge-pro

That's made me wonder whether other Vegas Pro users who have the Mocha Hitfilm Express Add-on have ever tried this, and were able to get MOcha Hitfilm working with Vegas Pro 19, successfully. By his comments in the thread, Foll hadn't yet purchased Hitfilm Pro, so I can only assume that he was using the Mocha Hitfilm Express add on... for $49.

https://fxhome.com/store/hitfilm-express#mocha

Back in 2020, it appears he was using version 6, so things may have changed since then in a more recent version, and this may no longer work. In any case, wondering if there are any Vegas Pro 19 users with this inexpensive Mocha add-on that can confirm whether they have got it working inside Vegas Pro 19, using Foll's simple hack?

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lan-mLMC wrote on 4/16/2022, 1:14 PM

I have Hitfilm Express with an unlicensed Mocha Hitfilm.

Mocha Hitfilm 6 : load successfully

Mocha Hitfilm 7 : error

Glen-Smith wrote on 4/16/2022, 8:48 PM

Thanks for the response, Ian. Kind of what I was guessing might be the situation these days, but wasn't sure how many responses it would take to get a complete answer. It would seem one and done! Thanks!

Just trying to figure out the least expensive (but effective) means to achieve 3D camera tracking. No prior experience in this area, but I think I grasp the concept from watching a bunch of videos. Since the once free MatchMover 2014 app seems to have been moth-balled by Autodesk, I was searching for other less expensive alternatives than BorisFX Mocho Pro.

Seems relatively cheap to investigate whether there's some way to integrate the use of Vegas Pro and HItfilm Express with Mocha Hitfilm to achieve a poor man's version of 3D camera tracking. Leaves me also wondering if the 3D camera tracking effect might somehow be achieved directly inside a 3D program (like my copy of Lightwave), by using video as a motion backdrop in 3D space combined with a bunch of obnoxious key-framing. Or perhaps figure out how to leverage the Mocha functionality that exists inside some of my existing BorisFX plug-ins to see if they can duplicate a 3D tracking effect. I'm not even close to knowing whether any of these might be possible, and it's not like it's an immediate requirement at the moment. Just always been a bit of a 3D nut, so the whole area has piqued my interest, despite being inexperienced in this space.

HOLD IT... I just had a thought. Do you happen to know whether there are download links to prior versions of Mocha Hitfilm (i.e. like version 6) on the FXHome web site, that a licensed user would have access to? That would make buying a Mocha Hitfilm license a no-brainer, if it provided a licensed user access to a prior version that would still work inside Vegas Pro 19. I know I'm grasping, but hey... this just occurred to me as I was about to end this thread.

lan-mLMC wrote on 4/16/2022, 11:39 PM

Just trying to figure out the least expensive (but effective) means to achieve 3D camera tracking. No prior experience in this area, but I think I grasp the concept from watching a bunch of videos. Since the once free MatchMover 2014 app seems to have been moth-balled by Autodesk, I was searching for other less expensive alternatives than BorisFX Mocho Pro.

All right, you can use free blender to do 3D camera tracking or 3D object tracking, then import data to Hitfilm Express.

3D camera tracking :

3D object tracking :

Some Tips for Blender + HitFilm Workflow :

Dexcon wrote on 4/17/2022, 12:25 AM

If you are going to get the free HitFilm Express, it would be a good idea to do it sooner rather than later because FXHome announced with the release of version 2021.3 in December last year that this would be the last version of HF Express (and HitFilm Pro as well) to integrate with Vegas Pro. FXHome recently released a patch for HF Express so you might want to check the build that you get from FXHome to make sure that integration is still available - fortunately, a patch released earlier this year for HitFilm Pro version 2021.3 did not end integration with Vegas Pro.

Both HitFilm Pro and HF Express are accessible directly from a video event on Vegas Pro's timeline by right clicking the video event and selecting 'Edit in HitFilm':

Assuming that integration is still in place and you buy Mocha HitFilm from the HF Express Add-on Store, you'll then be able to undertake camera tracking and planar mask tracking within HF Express and save it back to Vegas Pro. From what I've seen in tutorials on YT, this integration method is much the same as used in Vegas POST when going to Vegas Effects.

If you take on the Blender approach as suggested by lan-mLMC, you should still be able to save the HF Express edit back to Vegas Pro after performing the HF Express / Blender process.

Do you happen to know whether there are download links to prior versions of Mocha Hitfilm (i.e. like version 6) on the FXHome web site

FXHome's Support webpage - https://fxhome.com/support - has a 'Looking for older versions?' link that has download links for previous versions of FXHome products, but unfortunately there are no HF Express Add-on Store products listed there.

Glen-Smith wrote on 4/17/2022, 11:08 AM

Hey Ian and Dexcon,

Ian. Haven’t checked out the videos yet, but they look like the perfect place to start my journey to understand better what’s involved. Much appreciated!

Dexcon. Downloaded 2021.3, as you suggested, so it is in my arsenal! Another helpful post!

kind of curious whether Lightwave may have a similar function to Blender, but it would likely still need to generate a compatible file type Should be real interesting to see how camera tracking is accomplished in Blender, since that sounds doable on the cheap! 😉 Definitely will check this all out!

Thanks to you both!

Glen