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busterkeaton wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:03 PM
I don't think FCP really does it natively. V6 has the Cineform codec which is an intermediary codec, so it's not "native," but I would say it's preferable. V5 would let you edit the HDV natively or if you had the Cineform codec in that format. Generally Cineform was the way to go.

Does he have a PC? Is it a recent, fast PC for HDV? He should download Vegas 6 and render some stuff out. He may find he won't miss "native HDV" at all.
p@mast3rs wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:05 PM
FCP 5 says no intermediary codec is needed.

This taken from their site.

"The first choice for multicamera and native HDV editing.

Make videos and movies in any format with Final Cut Pro 5, a major upgrade to Apple's award-winning video editing application. It features powerful new multicamera editing, native HDV support, precision editing tools, scalable real-time effects processing, advanced real-time color correction and image manipulation filters and audio control surface support.

Whatever video format you choose, Final Cut Pro 5 is up to the task. Edit everything from DV and SD to DVCPRO HD and fully uncompressed 10-bit high-definition video. Or work with new formats like native HDV (long-GOP MPEG2) and 50Mbps IMX. Capture and output video accurately using professional decks, or go tapeless with new Panasonic P2 media support."

So I take it Vegas doesnt?


PeterWright wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:06 PM
You can put HDV straight on the timeline, but unless you have an "uber-PC" you won't get many fps preview. The intermediate codec is much better, and now VASST's Gearshift can convert to WS DV to do the same job.
busterkeaton wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:09 PM
Vegas doesn't what?
p@mast3rs wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:11 PM
Will it edit long-GOP? Nevermind the speed issue. He is looking for accurate frame cutting.
busterkeaton wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:27 PM
it can edit long GOP accurately as an HDV file or you can edit accurately and much faster in a virtually lossless avi file using the Cineform codec. I don't think there is any advantage to staying native HDV.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:33 PM
FCP is converting to an intermediary wavelet in the background, pretty much like everyone else is doing in one method or another. No one wants to edit native HDV, it's stupid, painful, and low-quality after just a couple passes. This is a misleading point on Apple's part, and at NAB, there were a LOT of questions from the audiences today about how they're doing it. The answers were very fluffed, I didn't have time to stick around long enough to hear a straight answer.
p@mast3rs wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:36 PM
Ok, cool. Thanks for clearing that up. Looks like Vegas just got another user. He just purchased the production set.

Spot, did you happen to catch any Nero news?
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/18/2005, 11:54 PM
I do have Nero news, but not sure what falls under NDA and what doesn't. Nero will be at the Vegas party tomorrow night, I'll be sure to ask.
Nero has a few hardware players here at the show from various manufacturers, and dang! it just simply looks beautiful.
PeterWright wrote on 4/19/2005, 4:18 AM
Patrick - as you know, your friend will never regret going for Vegas.

Let's face it - what can gently be descibed as "misleading" in the Mac blurb is in fact dishonest.

And the best news of all is he won't have to learn how to develop the supercilious AppleMac users' curled lip ; )