DVD time limit - 23 Gig render file...confused

chulaivet1966 wrote on 9/7/2011, 8:56 PM
Good day luminaries....(Sony Movie Studio Platinum 9.0b)

OK......I did manage complete my Vietnam DVD being 36 minutes of pictures and music.
The render file is an 8 gig (avi) and no problems burning.

I'm starting my personal music anthology and this one is 1:40 with the same pictures and music.
I checked *properties* of both folders and the MP3's amount to 99meg and the pictures are only 49meg yet my render file (avi) is 23 gig and is too large per my DVD burning program?
I fear I'm missing something basic about DVD storage (4gig), when to know if I'm reaching the limit and how a project determines whether a file is too big or not.

Also: After I select a sequence of pictures (say 20) on the time line how does one click/drag to extend length of all pictures equally over a longer area?
I could not find a reference to this action in *help*.

I'd appreciate any comments to educate me as I've rendered this one three times and my neurons are failing me.
To any that read this novel I owe you a beer(s).
Thanks in advance...

Comments

musicvid10 wrote on 9/8/2011, 12:20 AM
If you will render to DVD-compliant MPEG-2, rather than AVI, "most" of your questions will be answered. Also, the time spent preparing the DVD will go oh so much faster because your video is already in the correct format.

If you will use an online or downloaded bitrate calculator, the correct rendering bitrates will be relatively easy to determine.
Steve Grisetti wrote on 9/8/2011, 7:37 AM
Yes, as musicvid says, the video on a DVD is transcoded into a format that's much more compact than the video you edit. You can usually fit about 70 minutes of video on a standard 4.7 gig DVD disc.
chulaivet1966 wrote on 9/8/2011, 9:53 AM
Top of the mornin'......
Computer: Pentium P4 2.8 - 1.5 gig ram - plenty of hard drive space.

Musicvid: I was under the impression that ".avi" was the way to render per my reading here when I first got this program. But, I'll admit the depth of the program and choices of how to render appropriately keep me in baffled mode sometimes.
What confused me was I'm making a DVD movie with only pictures (a slide show, so to speak) along with my songs (MP3) which only totaled 150 meg....no movie file. Again, my ignorance.

Steve: Hello again....I'll try to render using MPEG-2 as suggested.
My Vietnam DVD I rendered as .avi - NTSC DVD Widescreen thinking this was correct.
I just realized also that maybe I need to 'make movie' first then render appropriately. Maybe I'm skipping an important aspect prior to rendering.

I don't need Vegas Pro as the depth of this program is enough of a challenge at this juncture.
I'm guessing the next upgrade for me is "Vegas Movie Studio HD Platinum 11 Production Suite"?

Thank you both very much for chiming in with the education and responses.
I'll follow up with any success or other inane inquires.

Carry on....



Chienworks wrote on 9/8/2011, 11:16 AM
Two thinks that will probably help you get a handle:

1) DVDs are always MPEG2, so you might as well just go there first. MPEG2 us *usually* more compressed than many AVI codecs, especially one as "gentle" as DV. More compressed = smaller file.

2) It doesn't matter if your source is 10 pictures or 1500 pictures or video or your grandmother's oatmeal. When you render the final file whatever you've put onto the timeline is converted into a series of 30 frames of 720x480 pixels per second (or 25 of 720x576 if you're in PAL-land). So, 10 tiny thumbnail pictures lasting 5 minutes is going to produce the same size output file as 1500 huge 15MP images lasting 5 minutes. What you put into a video rarely has any relationship to the finished rendered file size.

Just a friendly suggestion, but the [Make Movie] button is nearly useless. The very few default templates it offers are almost never even close to what you want to accomplish. Either click the "Advanced Render" function or go to File / Render As. That way you'll immediately be presented with all the available options, and many of the defaults are much better than what you wee in Make Movie.
chulaivet1966 wrote on 9/8/2011, 12:06 PM
Ok...I did not realize it was necessary to render a project as MP3-2 to make a DVD.
I'll ignore the 'Make Movie' tool per your suggestion.
On my Vietnam project I just chose *file/render as* and chose .avi and NTSC Widescreen and I was able to burn to DVD without issue.
But, it was just 36 minutes long with 280 pics, a 5 minute film and music from beginning to end.

I really do like the program but the depth of it has kept me somewhat challenged.
Took my years to get proficient with my music program so guess I should expect no less from a similarly involved and complex video program.

Thank you for chiming in....
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chulaivet1966 wrote on 9/8/2011, 2:15 PM
Another question please...obviously, I'm a slower learner than I would like in the process.

It just occurred to me that if I'm only making a DVD with pictures being a slide show along with music....no imported video clips....would it be more appropriate for me to use DVD Architect 4.5 which came in my 9.0b Platinum package?

If I should stay with the Movie Studio program for my particular project type I will continue on with my quest to understanding it all better.

Lastly....is the newer Movie Studio 11 HD that much different than my 9.0b version?
I'll upgrade if absolutely necessary.
Any comments on the v11.0 HD for this new kid?

Many thanks to all...