DVDA does not correctly report burn speed.

craftech wrote on 5/4/2004, 6:11 AM
I have posted thios at least 4 times in the past and never get an answer. I am still using DVDA 1.0, but I doubt that the problem has been fixed in DVDA 2.0 since no-one ever acknowledges the problem.
I always try to burn at 1x for compatibility purposes. DVDA burns at 1x for some media , but not for others despite the fact that one can choose 1x for every type of media tested.

Example: 50 minute video created in Vegas and authored using DVDA 1.0.

All three set for 1x and the results are as follows:

Ritek G04 (verified by DVD Identifyer) Burn time at 1x was 9 min 46 seconds.

MCC (Verbatim 4x) verified by DVD Identifyer. Burn time at 1x was 18 min 58 seconds.

TYG01..Taiyo Yuden 4x (Fuji 4x) verified by DVD Identifyer. Burn time at 1x was 9 min 45 seconds.

Burn all three using Nero at 1x.......Burn time was 18 minutes 51 seconds.

Will someone please address this or at least comment that they have had the same experience. Or do you all burn faster than 1x so it really doesn't matter?
It would also be nice if SF/Sony would at least finally answer with SOME kind of comment such as "We'll look into it". Search my posts. I have posted this 4 times, mostly on the DVDA forum.

John

Comments

Spot|DSE wrote on 5/4/2004, 6:17 AM
Obviously I can't comment for Sony, but we burn everything at 1x regardless. Since we only have Pioneer burners, never thought to compare times, either. DVDA DOES burn faster than Ulead's DVD Workshop, but never really thought about the 'why' of that, either. I guess I've never really cared, but maybe I should. Burning from 2.0, burn times certainly aren't unreasonable, but then again, I've only got one brand of burner. We've got Pioneer 05, 06, and 07.
craftech wrote on 5/4/2004, 6:26 AM
I guess I've never really cared, but maybe I should. Burning from 2.0, burn times certainly aren't unreasonable, but then again, I've only got one brand of burner. We've got Pioneer 05, 06, and 07.

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I am using a Pioneer 105 as well. I seriously think there is a problem which needs to be addressed. I don't think DVDA is setting the correct speed to 1x for all media as my tests would seem to indicate.

John
johnmeyer wrote on 5/4/2004, 8:38 AM
There is definitely a problem with the Pioneer A05. I complained about it here:

DVDA2 only burns at 1x on Pioneer A05

and also emailed it to Sony as a bug report. I was contacted by a tech who said they are aware of the problem and that they had a patch they wanted me to test. They then sent the patch (this was about ten days ago), which I tested. The patch did indeed fix this specific problem on my machine. I obviously don't know whether they have decided to include this patch in a future release, because they may, or may not, have decided that it doesn't break something else.

Anyway, it is not your imagination -- there is a real problem there.
farss wrote on 5/4/2004, 8:57 AM
Bear in mind that some media cannot be burnt at 1x in some drives.
My Plexwriter that I bought specifically to master audio CDs will not burn master CDs at under 4x. It tries to but after burn calibration reports that it cannot go below 1x. for the type of media.
Could I also add that with DVDs I've actually had less problems burning at 4x than 1x.
It sounds like there is a bug BUT that's not the only issue that you have to address.
craftech wrote on 5/4/2004, 9:18 AM
John,
Even though the problem you describe is different in that DVDA 1.0 SAYS it is burning at 1x, but is really burning at 2x, perhaps DVDA 2.0 is actually burning at 2x as well in your case. Either way, if they finally do come out with a patch it will probably be for DVDA 2.0, not 1.0 despite the fact that I have been complaining about it since last year with no response from them.
They should patch both, don't you think?

John
johnmeyer wrote on 5/4/2004, 11:07 AM
Even though the problem you describe is different in that DVDA 1.0 SAYS it is burning at 1x, but is really burning at 2x, perhaps DVDA 2.0 is actually burning at 2x as well in your case.

Not, that is not quite right. The problem I had is that DVDA 2.0 said that it was burning at 2x, but based on the time it took, it was really burning at 1x. DVDA 2.0 was most definitely NOT burning at 2x. The patch that Sony supplied for me to test definitely fixed this particular problem. I strongly suspect that all problems with Pioneer drives that relate to not burning at the speed you set are related to some central bug.