Editing esthetics with drone footage.

john-murphy wrote on 6/14/2018, 5:56 PM

.  Now that a drone is nearly expected on the job, I finally succumbed to the craze.  

  I'm a cinematic shooter and editor and now I find myself stuck on how to edit drone shots into
a sequence.  In the dark ages I was taught not to cut during a move, say a pan from left to right.  Start at the beginning and cut at the end.
You relied on the cameraman to give you usable start/stop points and the appropriate length of shot.  With a drone good start/stop points are very tough to achieve.  Plus the shots tend to be very long.  I can always edit using dissolves, but dissolves don't usually display very well on the internet.  I also find a dissolve between two moving pictures distracting. 

  There is a TV series named Aerial America.  They usually dissolve between locations and simply cut between shots at that location.  It works OK I guess but to me the cuts are very jarring.  Shot moves left, shot moves right, etc.

If these were action sequences that would be much easier, I'm talking about exterior scenic type shots.

  Any methods and or examples of more cinematic or at least less visible techniques? 

  Or do I change my long ingrained style! 

j


 

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fr0sty wrote on 6/15/2018, 2:45 AM

This is how we do it...

 

 

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Former user wrote on 6/15/2018, 4:38 AM

I don’t have a drone, but from what i’ve read, drone footage sequences in slomo can be nice, needs ideally 50/60fps. Maybe combine slow down/speed up with scene changes? if applicable.

Rainer wrote on 6/15/2018, 5:04 AM

Do a search on YouTube for "cinematic drone footage". Some of the many posts are even helpful. You'll even find stuff specific to your drone. Don't .

Rory Cooper wrote on 6/15/2018, 5:05 AM

the problem with too much drone footage for me personally it can disconnect the viewer so set the scene or establish the scene. I played around a bit used some time lapse and cut between the drone shots = shot of the drone and the footage from the drone.

Couldn't resist . it was raining but not heavy so sneaked in some shots. this place is so beautiful but slaves would jump to their death here rather than be enslaved. for them the beauty was a beast.

john-murphy wrote on 6/15/2018, 6:17 PM

Thanks everyone.  Nice examples.  I've got a piece of music, Rachmaninoff's Violin concerto, third movement,  that's just begging for some flying shots.  Maybe aerial or two then some nature close-ups, back to air etc.  If I go high enough on the bit rate I can use dissolves.

ritsmer wrote on 6/16/2018, 11:02 AM

Thanks everyone.  Nice examples.  I've got a piece of music, Rachmaninoff's Violin concerto, third movement,  

Rachmaninoff violin concerto - sounds interesting - have you got the tittle of the CD or some more detailed data, please ?

john_dennis wrote on 6/16/2018, 12:10 PM

"If I go high enough on the bit rate I can use dissolves."

Unless you host the video yourself, the appearance of dissolves will be determined by the bit rate the streaming service (vimeo, voutube, etc.) delivers. 

fr0sty wrote on 6/16/2018, 2:42 PM

Thanks everyone.  Nice examples.  I've got a piece of music, Rachmaninoff's Violin concerto, third movement,  that's just begging for some flying shots.  Maybe aerial or two then some nature close-ups, back to air etc.  If I go high enough on the bit rate I can use dissolves.

For something like a violin performance, you are going to want to heavily consider the amount of noise the drone is going to be making... you'll need it well away from the stage, and even then it could still end up being disruptive. At rock concerts and music festivals like I film, it isn't as big of a deal, but quieter stuff we have to be careful. Also, be sure to go through all of the proper regulations to be able to fly it, lest ye end up with a fine that can reach well into the 5 digits. When the interstate collapsed in Atlants, CBS threw a drone up to grab shots, unaware the FAA had restricted that airspace. They were fined $30,000.

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john-murphy wrote on 6/16/2018, 6:25 PM

Ritsmer,  its actually  Rachmaninoff's Symphony #2.  The third movement specifically. I believe the second movement was used in "Birdman".

Frosty, I've already produced the actual symphony piece, shot in the music hall.   This is something I want to do in post.  Unfortunately it's all copyright material, so I'm going to have to jump through some hoops to get it out into the world. 

John-Dennis, that is what worries me about the edit.   Nice 2 second dissolves between the orchestra and the aerial footage works great straight from the hard drive.  I'm afraid it will look like bad poop online.

jm

fr0sty wrote on 6/16/2018, 6:28 PM

We do some dissolves into drone shots on the videos I posted above, they don't look bad.

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ritsmer wrote on 6/17/2018, 12:21 AM

@john-murphy thank you. And yes - that adagio is a beautiful piece with long, slow movements great for some slow-mo drone shots.