Editing: faster way to select & manage?

Bee Bop wrote on 11/12/2006, 7:18 PM
Hi

Was wondering if there's a more efficient/automated way to select bits of video and store them somewhere until you're ready to use them.

Right now I'm just doing it on the timeline like this:
1. Set I/O points
2. Copy
3. Slide over to end of timeline
4. Paste
5. Start over etc.

As amazing as that whole process is to me, I can't help wondering if there's a faster way.

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Grazie wrote on 11/12/2006, 11:23 PM
OK, from what I'm understanding you are using the Timeline to create something like a repository of material - correct?

I too sometime use your method. I can skate back and forth and play and experiment. Nothing at all wrong with doing this. But, as you have now recognised as you get towards more long form and complex projects, having "depots" of stuff on the TL is just plain confusing and, well, counter-productive.

You have many options that you can experiment with and employ:

* Regions - Creating regions gives you a list of those elements from Events you want to refer back to. You get a list of your Regions you have created thru' Vegas Explorer. Used in conjunction with Edit Detail View will assist you too.

* Media Manager - A most excellent way to arrange top-level Events that you can then create thru Trimmer Regions etc etc

* Sub-clips - Making these will produce "discreet" I/O clips/pieces

* Sub-Bin Creation - Great way to sort any media.

* Nested Projects - This is a way to bring together sub-projects or "other" projects into your top level project. This allows to be able to edit small, again, discreet projects and embed them back into your main project. And all still editable too.

So for speed, and sanity, creating items and then recalling them, try some of the suggestions above - and yes you are correct! I can't help wondering if there's a faster way.

vicmilt wrote on 11/13/2006, 4:51 AM
I've been working long form for quite a while now. When you've got a lot of source material, dragging stuff to the end of the timeline can get old.

So, in addition to what Grazie has written, (all correct and usable) here's another technique I use all the time.

1 - I assemble all the video from a given scene in one folder:
"BobsParty"
2 - I simply now open that folder and drag all the clips to the timeline. I save that timeline as "BobPartyAssemly".
I never change ANYTHING in that time line. -
3 - Leave it open and open a second copy of Vegas. This will be "BobPartyEdit-1"

When I need something that is not easily located, I click open the "Assembly" timeline, select, copy and paste into the "Edit" program.

Because most editors become very familiar with the footage at hand, I've found this to be the most streamlined process, especially for "B-roll" shots. By having the ability to speed through EVERYTHING you don't inadvertantly miss something that you might otherwise have thrown away.

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Bee Bop wrote on 11/13/2006, 8:06 AM
Thanks for all the information and tips guys! That helps a lot. Just knowing the proper word to search on is very useful.
kraz wrote on 11/14/2006, 2:25 AM
I do my "slicing and dicing" in Womble - I know its silly to have an extra apps just for that - but is it so efficient in Womble. I make directories per scene . and If I have enough forsite (and know my storyboard beforehand) I name the clips starting with a number so I can import them in order.

It would be cool - to have a little "bin" on the side in Vegas and just drop the clips I know I will need later there.
Grazie wrote on 11/14/2006, 2:35 AM
It would be cool - to have a little "bin" on the side in Vegas and just drop the clips I know I will need later there.

Eh? Well we do have,

#1 - Media Manager

#2 - Bin/s to drag to stuff to

#3 - Trimmed Subclips to go to Bins

No good?

Zulqar-Cheema wrote on 11/14/2006, 7:26 AM
I asked for this some time ago, a bit like in DP where you can move bits to a the edge of the screen to bring back latter

I do the same as you, would be nice to drag from screen to a temp bin or a blank screen
farss wrote on 11/14/2006, 2:56 PM
Very simple suggestion, move them to a track a the bottom. I do this all the time.
Want to preview them, solo the track, the thumbnails give you a hint as to the content.
vicmilt wrote on 11/14/2006, 9:11 PM
Or (again) you could just click your second "AssemblyAll" version and quickly scroll through everthing.
Sometines I'll also put regions on this AssemblyAll, if I have a huge amount of varying footage.