Editing problem caused by grouping/ungrouping?

flicktease wrote on 3/30/2003, 7:52 AM

I seem to have missed some basic step because I seem to have stuffed up my project. I know that my video started out ok with the video & audio in sync but this is no longer the case. I suspect that I may have gotten it wrong when I ungrouped these 2 items so that I could move the sound a little way from the where it originally was. Am I correct in guessing that grouping/ungrouping items gives differant results depending upon whether or not you have also got ripple edit enabled?

Is there some way to determine what clips are in a group? I know that I can slide a clip & other clips will move as well depending upon what clips were in your group, but sometime I find that by sliding a clip I had another clip hiding underneath another one. I suppose what I'm asking is whether you can be certain of ungrouping all of the clips in your group even if you are no longer certain what clips are in your group.? Can you just click on one clip in a group & get all clips in the group ungrouped?

As for getting all of my sound out of sync I suppose that I will just have to start over again & be more careful in adding & deleting groups. Had the machine not been turned off I suppose that I could have just used undo.

Comments

EPsymp wrote on 3/30/2003, 10:25 AM

I'm not entirely sure I understand your question, but when you select a clip and choose ungroup, that clip will be the only clip that is removed from the group. Say you have 3 clips grouped, select one of them and "remove from" group. The 2 others will still be in a group. If you want to ignore all the groups which are created you can click "ignore even grouping" on the toolbar. This sounds like it could be helpful to you. Orginization is important if you want to avoid a lot of frustration.

vicmilt wrote on 3/30/2003, 2:09 PM

hey flick (and any one else who cares) -
one of the first things an editor learns is to save consecutive edits (Edit-1, Edit-2, etc), as you work, and to ALWAYS save an edit with an updated number when you ripple.
Sometimes a badly done ripple (happens to everyone), won't be spotted for hours, days or even weeks, by which time you have done gazillions of hours of work on other areas, which you REALLY don't want to give up.
At that point, you would scan back (in the Explorer) for previously saved versions of the project, find one that IS still in sync, and and either cut and paste from project to project, or use the oldie but goodie as a blueprint for what has to be moved.
VV3 was a "bear" for ripple edits (meaning I personally had a heck of a time making them work correctly) - but I've heard that VV4 is better. The consecutive save technique is still one not to be ignored. It may save your butt, someday,and it's easy to do. Just Save As, and bump yourlast project one number higher.