Erratic playback of DVD's produced in DVD-A

jkb242 wrote on 12/30/2003, 6:44 PM
I have only burned about 10 projects with DVD A with most of them turning out OK and recently several being erratic in terms of their ability to be played on a standard DVD player.

One project (Video_ts and Audio_ts files) were in excess of 5Gb. I used DVD shrink version 3 to compress to an allowable size and then burned with DVD A with consistant failures. One suggestion on a previous post was to use DVD shrink V3 to "copy" not compress the VIDEO_TS file then open that copy with DVD shrink V5 letting it set the correct compression and use deep analysis to prepare the backup. Once I did this, I could never use deep analysis mode in DVD 5 as the option was never presented. Maybe due to the codecs I was forced to used in capturing the video from 8 MM, high 8 tape to keep the audio in sync with the video. This is a problem I have had often when using the UYVY codec which is not the case when using the YUY2 codec. These are the only two ATI compatible codecs I could use which were provided by the capture driver (ATI compatible Vegas selection). At any rate, DVD shrink V5 provided no deep analysis selection when copying a file using DVD Shrink Version 3. I was told that DVD shrink V 5 as a standalone, was not compatible with DVD A prepared files as this is one of the many glitches in the current release of DVD A.

I have used the custom presets to render the video and audio separate in Surround sound and in stereo but did notice that with PCM audio encoding the project played back miserably and the project file size was much larger??

Since I am unable to find compatible shrinking program that will alllow DVD A to burn without errors, I try to burn DVD project sizes that require no recompression using outside programs. Even when I do this, I still get projects that result in erratic performance when burned to a DVD. At various parts of the different projects, the audio may mute and the video pixelizes and depending upon the player, the DVD may stop or continue with jerky motion, pixialization, and muted audio until the defective area is passed. The original avi files and the rendered mpg file are fine when played in Vegas preview or any other player. The data corruption happens during preparation of the Video_ts file or durning burning.

I write DVD RW's to test the project then to DVD -R's for final burns. So far, I have found this problem many times burning a DVD-RW to test the project. Playing the files back in a standard DVD player is the best way I have found to check the finished project which often results in the playback failing.

I am using Fugi DVD media and burining at 2.4X for th RW media. I have 264 Mb RAM DDR memory with an Intel 1.8 Gb processor and a dedicated firewire Maxtor and an IDE Western Digital 120Gb UDMA 66/100 for file storage. The Maxtor Firewire drive is 5400 RPM. I have had the problem above, making DVD's from video files stored on either drive. Is there another authoring program that is not so aparently flakey?

Does anyone have any suggestions regarding what may be at work here as to the failures?

I wanted to retain as much quality as possibe so I did not allow DVD A to select a bit rate that would fit a single large project onto a single DVD which is why I was attempting to use DVD shrink. Any other methods/programs used to compress larger projects to fit on one DVD that someone has found to be very reliable that could be suggested?

Suggestions and comments are much appreciated.

Jerry

Comments

GaryKleiner wrote on 12/30/2003, 10:58 PM
>I write DVD RW's to test the project then to DVD -R's for final burns. So far, I have found this problem many times burning a DVD-RW to test the project. Playing the files back in a standard DVD player is the best way I have found to check the finished project which often results in the playback failing. <

Keep in mind that DVD-RWs are much more prone to playback problems on stand-alone DVD players. What happens when you take your DVD-Rs to Best buy and try them on a bunch of different players? What happens if you use a different brand of media?

Gary
craftech wrote on 12/31/2003, 12:41 AM
Try burning at 1x

John
jkb242 wrote on 1/1/2004, 8:46 AM
If I get errors burning to DVD-RW I do not burn to a DVD-R. I try to find out what is wrong and either re-render or make additional changes. It is has taken me forever to finally get a few projects to burn to the test DVD RW's without errrors. I was not aware that DVD RW are very much prone to errors, I may have been chasing my tail for several weeks.

I seem to have more problems trying to author when using the rendering template in Vegas that allows special rendering for an MPEG 2 stream used in DVD A and when rendering with surround sound. That is two renderings for each project and when there are problems, it is double the effort to correct as it is difficult to tell for sure if the problem is in the video or the sound. I attempted to render one prject uisng PCM audio, what a disaster!!

Thanks for the comments..
jkb242 wrote on 1/1/2004, 8:47 AM
I am burning at 2.4 for RW disk. Have you had remarkable improvement burning at 1X?

Thanks for the comments.
aussiemick wrote on 1/1/2004, 2:26 PM
I have had endless problems burning at more than 1x and also have written off 3 DVD-RW's burning at higher speeds, whether this is the cause or not but it does happen after a fast burn.
johnmeyer wrote on 1/1/2004, 3:48 PM
If you use DVD Shrink Beta 5 on DVD-A 1.0c video, you will get strange pixelation, hesitations, etc. There is some sort of incompatibility. I have tried several workarounds, including copying first with DVD Shrink 2.3. Make sure that DVD Shrink is not used in any way, or you will have problems.
GaryKleiner wrote on 1/2/2004, 12:09 AM
If you don't want Erotic playback from your DVDs, try more G-rated subject matter.

Gary

P.S. Where are my glasses?
craftech wrote on 1/2/2004, 4:57 AM
I am burning at 2.4 for RW disk. Have you had remarkable improvement burning at 1X?

Thanks for the comments.
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I don't even burn DVD-R at anything more than 1x. I would especially avoid burning a DVD-RW at anything more than 1x. Try it.

John