Extracting Video from DVD

vidiot57 wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:03 PM
Hello,

Using Vegas 5, and i have some footage on an authored DVD (Note_This is NOT a copyrighted DVD I am trying to pull footage from) that I wish to bring into Vegas.. I can see a directory called Video_TS and Audio_TS.. Is there any way to imprort video from a DVD like this into Vegas?
Any suggestions??

mike moncrief

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JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:06 PM
I think you need a 3rd party program to rip the MPG and AC-3 files out of the VOBs that you will find in the VIDEO_TS directory. After that, the MPGs and AC-3s can be brought into Vegas.

Sorry, I don't know of a program to do this, but I'm sure someone here must.

-Jayson
johnmeyer wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:09 PM
You'll find many answers if you do a search for "VOB" on these forums. I hope Sony keeps track of how often this question is asked.

Here are some of those posts:

VOB files

Extracting Video from a DVD image

straight path for reauthoring
Jsnkc wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:21 PM
You can try to drag the VOB file onto the Vegas timeline, as long as it doesn't have AC3 audio it *should* work fine. IF it does have AC3 audio then you will most likely just get the video file with no audio. If that is the case then the easiest thing to do is to just do a analog capture from a DVD player.
JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:34 PM
Analog capture? Yuck. That wil result in significant quality loss, won't it? There has to be software for this on the Internet.

-Jayson
vidiot57 wrote on 7/23/2004, 2:38 PM
Hello,

I was able to drag up onto the timeline.. But no there is no audio..I went back and read the post JohnMeyer suggested.. The one thing he mentioned was to uses DVD2AVI to extract the audio.. i am not clear , is this an external utility, or something from within Vegas or DVD Architect??

Thanks for all the help,
Mike m.
JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/23/2004, 3:13 PM
Don't know for sure, but I don't believe that is a Vegas component. It's probably a standalone program. Search the net.

-Jayson
ScottW wrote on 7/23/2004, 3:45 PM
Go to www.doom9.net and check out their downloads. You'll find a copy of DVD2AVI - it's a standalone utility that will let you extract the audio and video from the VOB. The video can be decompressed and then written to some other form, like DV AVI (which is easier for Vegas to handle than MPEG).

While you are at it, pick up a copy of BeSweet along with the GUI interface to BeSweet; using that you can decode the AC3 file that DVD2AVI will create for you. DVD2AVI might be able to decode 2 channel AC3 into WAV but I'm pretty certain it won't do 5.1 - for that you'll need BeSweet.

--Scott
johnmeyer wrote on 7/23/2004, 5:22 PM
DVD2AVI is a standalone utility. Another way to go is MPEG VCR or MPEG Wizard, both from Womble. This utility lets you place the VOB on the timeline and cut and/or join it with other VOB files. You then export the result to an MPEG file which can be placed directly into DVDA. If you want the audio, you simply take all the VOB files from the video timeline (I am talking about Womble's MPEG Wizard) and move them down to the audio timeline, and then export. This will create an AC3 file (assuming that is the format of the original audio). You then put this into DVDA, along with the MPEG file, and voila, you have video and AC3 audio, trimmed and cut as you wanted, without any recompression. Takes only a few minutes.

I belive that the latest version of Adobe's products allow this, and I am sure most other products shortly will as well. Since EVERYONE puts their video onto DVD's, EVERYONE is going to want/need this feature.
AudioIvan wrote on 7/23/2004, 7:52 PM
DVD2AVI can do lots of things, just make sure to use the "right" version.
DVD2AVI now is DGindex, of course you can use the old version but look for "decodefix" version.
If you need just simple NOT accurate cuts you can use DGindex,ChopperXP,Womble,VobEdit...
Also there are some AC3 cutting uttilities like AVIsynth,BeSweet,BeSlice.....
But if you need to decode the AC3,DTS, stream just learn how to use BeSweet, THE BEST TOOL EVER ! ! !

AudioIvan
FrankieP wrote on 7/23/2004, 10:21 PM
The best tool I found to extract audio from VOB is River Past Audio Converter (http://www.riverpast.com/en/prod/audioconverter/index.php).
So easy and conversion is extremely fast.

Check out the tutorial
http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tutorials/convert/vob/wav.php
Cunhambebe wrote on 7/23/2004, 10:41 PM
Yes, that's it. BeSweet. You can get this excellent application at www.videohelp.com for free. With BeSweet you can go from VOB to WAV and then open the audio file with Vegas. This is just one possibility. You can also go from AC-3 to WAV. In this case, be sure to configure the audio level. BeSweet may be a little difficult to use for the first time, but this application rocks! You can go VOB to WAV, AC3 to WAV, etc...
You can also try Goldwave (trial for 30 days) to go from AC-3 to WAV. If you decide for this one, you'll have to install AC-3 filter (freeware - get it at www.videohelp.com)
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VOB files: you can drop'em directly on Vegas timeline or have TMPGENC to do the job for ya (go from VOB to MPEG2).
1. Open TMPGENC, select MPEG TOOLS, DE-MULTIPLEX.
2. Browse for the VOB file and click on the video stream to have an m2v file.
3. Open this newly created file with TMPGENC again choosing this time Multiplex to convert it to MPEG2.
You can also choose DE-MULTIPLEX and select audio: TMPGENC will go from VOB to AC-3. Then you can choose BeSweet to go from AC3 to WAV or Goldwave for the same task (I am sure BeSweet is the best choice since it goes directly from VOB to WAV).That's it.
If you think this is difficult, just drop the VOB file on Vegas timeline and use BeSweet to go from VOB AC-3 to WAV for the audio file.
Note: if you try to edit or resize the video file through pan and crop to re-render the whole stuff once more...you'll get lots of banding (still don't know why ;). The best way to check out these "banding" or poor video quality is to watch the original VOB file with Power DVD. If you really decide to edit and re-render, then you'll have to do some dithering (adding noise) to cover up those bandings OR use other TMPGENC funcitons as De-interlace (even field adaptation).
;)
farss wrote on 7/23/2004, 11:07 PM
You MAY find turning on Reduce Interlace Flicker fixes your banding problem.

Bob.
Cunhambebe wrote on 7/24/2004, 8:22 AM
Thanks, farss. But no, definitely not. This option doesn't help at all. In fact we've discussed this topic before, remember that?
Some original commercial DVDs have a lot of banding. This is a fact! Just watch'em with Power DVD on your computer. You're gonna agree with me. I guess Main Studios MAY do it on purpose, compressing the video files...By the way...how's the winter in Australia? ;)
farss wrote on 7/24/2004, 8:34 AM
The winter down here has been very cold or maybe I'm just getting old and noticing it more. Still no rain of any significance so it looks like water restrictions will be here for a while.

From my experiece playing DVDs one of the biggest factors is the qulaity of the DVD player. I have a test DVD encoded mostly from downconverted HD and on my 'pro' DVD player it looks stunning, on everything else I've tried it on it looks between good and horrible. None of the computer based players to a good job of it either.

For best results seems the way to go is component out of a pro player into a matching component capture devices. Non realtime software decoders should do a better job but I've yet to see it.

Bear in mind the 'banding' problem we were talking about isn't the same as the one that occurs when you resixe a frame. That's not a color space problem, its something to do with aliasing of the scan lines.

Bob.