Fade-outs Disappear

Sonata wrote on 10/20/2009, 6:04 AM
Vegas Movie Studio 9 (basic) with all updates. Windows XP SP3.

I am not sure if this is a bug or if I bumped a key command which changed something. This issue is not consistent but frequent, and I will do my best to explain it.

I will put an event on the timeline and drag the right-side upper corner to fade out a few seconds or so (length of fade is irrelevant).

I will put down another event to the right of the first event, and when I drag the second event to butt-up against the first event, the fade out of the first event goes away and there is no fade.

If I try to re-do the fade out, it won't stay and it disappears again. I have to move the second event away from the first event in order for a fade out to stay.

The only way around this is to add solid black between the events and overlap the first event with the solid black event to create a cross-fade to fake the fade-out.

But the catch is that this doesn't happen every time. This never used to happen until a few months ago, and it seems that it is becoming more frequent, but again, not every time.

Any thoughts? It's an annoyance more than anything since I have a work around figured out, but it's still an annoyance.

Thanks in advance!


Chienworks wrote on 10/20/2009, 8:19 AM
Not sure what to tell you. I would see this occasionally on files where the the length of the audio & video were slightly different, but lately i'm starting to see it even with video-only files.

If i'm only doing one track then i just leave an empty frame between them. If i need the m butted together then i use your solution. One could also use a compositing envelope if you want to avoid the extra events. Personally i find the envelope approach messier since it's global, whereas the extra black event is local.
wjsd wrote on 10/21/2009, 2:38 AM
I see this behavior sometimes. I've traced the problem to clips that I edited when the 'Quantize to Frames' option was off and then later turned back on. The clip you're butting up against ends in the middle of a frame. When you try to move the second clip next to it, snapping goes a little too far and overlays that last half frame, thus eliminated your fade out. Make sense?
Sonata wrote on 10/21/2009, 9:27 AM
That makes complete sense, wjsd. Next time I run into this issue I will look for the partial frame scenario and go from there.
okmike wrote on 4/28/2015, 8:16 PM
I am seeing this now in Movie Studio 13. It will let me put the two images together to form a cross fade, but it will not let me butt them together, with one fading out and one fading in.

But it only happens sometimes. Very aggravating.
musicvid10 wrote on 4/28/2015, 8:59 PM
Crossfades are achieved by overlapping events, not by b-u-t-t-i-n-g them.
Former user wrote on 4/29/2015, 12:26 PM
Vegas is doing a FADE to black. The black clip (blank) and the video clip are butted next to each other. As soon as you slide another clip next to it, the fade changes to a cut because now the two adjacent clips are video. You can use the Fade to color effect or leave a frame of black between.
TheQuestor wrote on 6/24/2020, 1:50 PM

I've been banging my head against the wall with this issue as well. However, I figured out a simple work-around for it: Simply create two tracks. Do your fade on clip one on track one, and then move the second clip (on track two) to the exact position you want it. Whether it's butting up against the first or overlapping it, the fades stay.