Feature Requests for V4.0c

Sol M. wrote on 4/15/2003, 3:44 AM

I know, I know, no matter what you give them (4.0b is a godsend BTW), they always want more. It's true! So here it comes, a few feature requests that I know would propell Vegas to an even higher level:

1. Multiple Timelines/Sequences - Ever wanted to try mutliple versions of an edit? How about multiple sections of a single project? Sure, you can create copies of a project and accomplish this on a basic level. But that's where project organization starts to go awry. This is important to get users who do long-form projects onboard.

2. Timeline/Sequence Nesting - Absolutely necessary for episodic work. By nesting a timeline in another, you can easily move entire sections/scenes/etc. very effectively. While copying and pasting from one project to another may seem to work, its effectiveness disappears when you make a change to the original section/scene/etc. It would then need to be re-copied/pasted. For larger projects with different people working on different sections (hence the reason why one central project/timeline would become unwieldy), copying and pasting is not an option.

3. Make it free - with FCP express and the looming Avid FreeDV, SoFo will have to do something drastic to "make it" in the "biz". Making Vegas free is the only choice. It doesn't matter than Vegas nearly blows away the full version of FCP and Avid Xpress at a price point of more than half of the next lowest priced product, nor does it matter than you release free updates to a product that exponentially increase its usefulness, making it free appears to be the only course of action. (A small April fools in honor of the month).

Thanks for all the great work thus far, I know it will only get better (especially with these features! ;p).

Comments

Blackout wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:24 AM

Heres two requests...to be able to use Virtualdub Plugins, and to be able to Frameserve...it cant be done you say Sofo?

;) go satish !!:)

Blackout

JJKizak wrote on 4/15/2003, 7:43 AM

Capture HD, improve snapping, video noise reduction that works, echo removal,
foot pedal operation of l-r mouse clicking.

JJK

Grazie wrote on 4/15/2003, 7:57 AM

Got my vote too, JJ:

improve snapping:improve snapping:improve snapp:improve sn:improve:improve snapping

;-)

Grazie

vectorskink wrote on 4/15/2003, 8:23 AM

Titling, Titling, Titling, Titling, Titling!!!!

Tyler.Durden wrote on 4/15/2003, 8:33 AM

OK folks, your opinions on this idea:

Hotkey to select all events within the timline loop-range.

(Might be easier than the selection tool)

Thoughts?

MPH

TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/15/2003, 9:14 AM

I'd like to see a TGA and BMP export option. I couldn't really ask for much else. :)

tailgait wrote on 4/15/2003, 9:27 AM

I would like to see an audio manual that explains what each effect does and how to use it!

Erk wrote on 4/15/2003, 9:47 AM

I like Marty's idea for a Hotkey to select all events within the timline loop-range.

G

BrianStanding wrote on 4/15/2003, 9:51 AM

1. Open the SoFo DV codec so that it is available to other applications.

2. Drag and drop regions from the Trimmer to the Media Pool to create virtual subclips.

3. A hotkey or toolbar button that automatically resynchs paired audio and video if inadvertently dragged out of synch. (Is this script-able?)

4. Allow for importation or nesting of Vegas projects.

I hate to say this, but Premiere (gasp!) can do all these things. (These may be the ONLY things Premiere can do that Vegas can't!)

Tyler.Durden wrote on 4/15/2003, 9:59 AM

Hi B,

>>>>"3. A hotkey or toolbar button that automatically resynchs paired audio and video if inadvertently dragged out of synch. (Is this script-able?)"<<<

You can do this with keyboard macro...

HTH, MPH

Tips:
http://www.martyhedler.com/homepage/Vegas_Tutorials.html

Jsnkc wrote on 4/15/2003, 10:04 AM

Also it would be nice if there was a "nudge" feature where you can move a clip one frame at a time, maybe it's already in Vegas and I haven't found it yet.

BrianStanding wrote on 4/15/2003, 10:06 AM

Hey, Marty.

I've read your keyboard macro tutorial on your website, and I'm not sure how this would apply. I can see how some of the steps could be automated this way, but how do you tell Vegas how many frames to adjust the audio or video track?

Premiere remembers this information automatically. Any way to get Vegas to do this, too?

Tyler.Durden wrote on 4/15/2003, 10:11 AM

Hi Jason,

There is a nudge, you'll find it in the key shortcuts (Help).

Hi Brian,

The macro I would use selects the video event, opens in trimmer and adds into the TL deleting or displacing the original.

I know a re-sync that moves the bumped audio back would be cooler, but I haven't figgered that out yet. :-/

mph

Jsnkc wrote on 4/15/2003, 10:41 AM

See, I knew somebody knew where to find it :)

roger_74 wrote on 4/15/2003, 10:54 AM

This script should take care of it.

import SonicFoundry.Vegas;

var selectionStart : Timecode = Vegas.SelectionStart;

var selectionEnd : Timecode = Vegas.SelectionStart + Vegas.SelectionLength;

for (var currentTrack : Track in Vegas.Project.Tracks)

{

	for (var currentEvent : TrackEvent in currentTrack.Events)

	{

		if ((currentEvent.Start + currentEvent.Length) >= selectionStart && currentEvent.Start <= selectionEnd)

		{

			currentEvent.Selected = true;

		}

	}

}

It selects all events that are inside or touching the timeline selection.

Tyler.Durden wrote on 4/15/2003, 11:03 AM

Roger... U da Man.

Thanx, mph

jetdv wrote on 4/15/2003, 11:27 AM

You may want to change:



if ((currentEvent.Start + currentEvent.Length) >= selectionStart && currentEvent.Start <= selectionEnd)

  {

     currentEvent.Selected = true;

  }



if ((currentEvent.Start + currentEvent.Length) >= selectionStart && currentEvent.Start <= selectionEnd)

  {

     currentEvent.Selected = true;

  } else {

     currentEvent.Selected = false;

  }

to make sure all events OUTSIDE the loop are NOT selected.

slacy wrote on 4/15/2003, 3:13 PM

- Improved snapping (something more tactile, more decisive)
- A real timeline scrub (the ONE feature that Premiere handles more capably than Vegas)
- Allow undersampling at the track level
- Better media management tools (e.g., Final Cut Pro's archiving feature which packages together only the media used in a project)
- The ability to import a tree structure of media files
- Automatically stop playback when user clicks elsewhere in the UI (as it is now, if you click anything but the stop button during playback, the whole system freezes momentarily)

FuTz wrote on 4/15/2003, 3:29 PM

Rotoscopy.
A simple, effficient and reliable app to be able to do it. Be it with Photoshop or not.

SonyDennis wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:10 PM

Jive:

How would you envision "Multiple Timelines/Sequences" working, and why wouldn't it be completely covered by "Timeline/Sequence Nesting"? If you could effectively put a .veg file as an event on the timeline, couldn't your master project just have "N" events, each representing an entire project?

///d@

SonyDennis wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:11 PM

What exactly are you folks thinking about when you say "improve snapping"?
///d@

Jsnkc wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:18 PM

I think that SoFo should produce some sort of breakout box and card for the computer so that Vegas could do truly uncompressed video editing in realtime, similar to the Video Toaster 2 with it's SX-8 Breakout Box. I know it would cost a lot more, but I would definatly buy it, Vegas is so much easier to use than Toaster, but some of our clients want the completely uncompressed editing option. Maybe something to look at for Vegas 4 or 5 :)

Just my 2¢

BrianStanding wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:28 PM

Can't speak for Jive, Dennis, but there are 3 ways I could imagine multiple timelines working:

1. The ability to have several project files open within the application (the same way a word processor can have different documents, each in its own window). This strikes me as the least useful, since you can already run multiple instances of Vegas and accomplish much the same thing.

2. The ability to import a project file, so that all the clips and effects show up as separate events on the timeline of the new project. This is what Premiere does.

3. The ability to put a project file on the timeline as a single event, so that you could apply effects, transitions to the entire project in exactly the same way you can with a video clip, etc. This would be REALLY cool and is similar to the way After Effects handles compositions. This would allow you to build really complex effects (like spinning or moving an edited video sequence on the screen) without having to re-render an AVI file to see how it looks.

My $0.02.

Grazie wrote on 4/15/2003, 4:47 PM

Sonic - A more positive "Snap" to the last clip! PLUS a bigger K/F timeline - it's too tiny for me.

Grazie