Feedback to Sony on Vegas Pro 13

TheLaw wrote on 5/17/2014, 8:56 PM
I'll be honest - I haven't upgraded from Pro 12 at this point and am wondering whether it's really worth it, especially since DVD Architect hasn't needed a much, much needed and long overdue facelift. Even Vegas would do well with some interface changes that remove the traces of scroll bar awkwardness, but that we can handle. Not updating DVD Architect this go round? It's like episodes of Star Trek. Only the even numbered releases are worthwhile.


ushere wrote on 5/17/2014, 9:51 PM
i haven't produced a dvd commercially for the last two years* (though am doing so at present for a gov client whose network is regional and allows no online video).

dvd arch works well enough, true it's dated and has some problems (that i've read of but never come across), but i would prefer energy and resources poured into vegas rather than arch...

*all my clients who are releasing material (other than over the net or by file) are now doing so on 'promo' usb sticks - whose content is easily passed on whilst the branding lasts far longer than the content ....
VidMus wrote on 5/17/2014, 10:06 PM
It is the little things that make Vegas Pro 13 worth the upgrade.
Lovelight wrote on 5/17/2014, 11:58 PM
You are not alone. Dvda is a big joke. Why do people defend it?

Standards in software have dropped considerably in a very short time.

Vote with your dollars is my only advice.

videoITguy wrote on 5/18/2014, 12:07 AM
DVDAPro is a mature application at the moment, mature in development and mature for the current market. If you want to go Blu-ray you have opportunity at another level with products like DoStudio.
I doubt there is any motivation to do more with DVDAPro. Other mature DVD authoring includes, DvDlabPro, Adobe Encore, and yes now Tmpeg Authoring Works.

SCS should and must throw more into fixing and promoting VegasPro as a capable NLE.
i am erikd wrote on 5/18/2014, 12:19 AM
Audio loudness meters alone is enough for me. Very happy with the logging feature. Wish we could just get some dang time code in the audio files!!!!! How can you say Pro with no TC in audio??
set wrote on 5/18/2014, 9:11 PM
ushere: *all my clients who are releasing material (other than over the net or by file) are now doing so on 'promo' usb sticks

Leslie, I heard lots of times about this distribution though I haven't experiment with it since my videos mainly Wedding is still long durations & complete coverage.

Maybe you can share what template or codec do you prefer?
Is it Mainconcept Internet templates?
What resolution size do you usually render to?

ushere wrote on 5/19/2014, 3:34 AM
hi set,

of course it's all client dependent, but in general...

most usb promo's and progs i do will happily fit on a 4gb drive. with logo printing included they cost around $3.25. of course the branding as such lasts a lot longer than the program ;-) or ;-( depending on how you look at it.

by default i put a hq mp4 @ 720 file on them (mainconcept - generated straight from tl) - this guarantees playing on nearly any pc and tv with usb. i also supply (if required) a full hd mp4 i either archive the whole project to a hard drive, or if i'm ABSOLUTELY SURE there's never going to be a need to re-edit i render a hdcam lite @ 1080 for archive.

for longer programs we simply get bigger drives.

i'm not sure about weddings, maybe they like the dvd and slick, but i'd be selling them on usb - with both full version and short web ready so they can load the full version directly onto or into their pc / media player / tv, and post short direct to youtube....

of course, ymmv ;-)

Steve Mann wrote on 5/19/2014, 10:50 PM
"Why do people defend it?"

Because, it works. I've been using DVDA for ten years and made hundreds of DVDs. (Well, my duplicator takes the master I make from DVDA).

In the past five years I have had only ONE client ask for Blu Ray, so we continue producing DVDs.

Between Photoshop and DVDA, there's not much I can't do with DVD authoring.
Rob Franks wrote on 5/20/2014, 7:08 AM
"Not updating DVD Architect this go round?"

Can't see DVDa going much further.
It produces quality DVD's already so not much more expansion required there.

Blu Ray is a slightly different ballgame and there seems to be a line quietly drawn in the sand between consumer Blu Ray discs and commercial ones. There are many programs (DVDa included) which can produce a good consumer grade BD, but producing a commercial level disc is still very much limited to the high end expensive software which is almost all beyond the affordability of the average consumer or small pro videographer.

There are a few freeware programs out there written by private individuals wishing to skirt this line and some of them do a pretty good job, but as for the likes of DVDa, or even Adobe's Encore... their present state is I believe, about as far as it's going to go.
TheLaw wrote on 5/20/2014, 3:06 PM
My point is this - where are the meaningful improvements? 3D The interface looks at least a decade old and many process should have been made more streamlined and simple, e.g. rendering a segment from a video timeline, etc. I'm looking at the upgrades to Vegas Pro 13 coming from 12 and I just don't see much worth spending $150 on. If the upgrade included going from Sound Forge 10 to 11, I'd have considered it. But otherwise, it seems a very mild upgrade.