Thank you for responding.

I edit 4k and 1080p 3 to 4 minute music videos using this program

I have read on the many different post to boost render times or make timeline editing smoother.

But so many different ones and some testing I reached no better results in my renders

I was reaching out to know what file i/O settings do I need to have checked or unchecked..

Does my max number of render threads need to match my cpu cores or threads?

Does dynamic ram need to stay on %5?

And last does the nvida control panel settings effect the speed of the render?

I'm using heavy color grading

Simple fades and overlays

Most of these are not on the file io tab.

You didn't share your CPU, GPU or Mediainfo- advice in VEGAS is much more valuable if it's specific to the situation. There is no one best for all.

I'd suggest keeping everything on defaults. Try the benchmarks in my signature and see how it compares against simliar hardware. If worse, change one setting at a time and see if it makes a difference.

For dynamic ram preview 5% is what I'd recommend. I actually use ram previews (shift b) so set it to 10%. The only reason to reduce it to 0 is if you have render glitches as it kills performance.

I would not touch NVIDIA control panel.

I would not touch render threads.

My information is in my signature I apologize

I was putting Thhe information in as we speak

Default makes a 3 min video take 1hr 22 min to render

I did your your benchmark and it was a a little over 7 minutes render time

I have been running test for 2 days

Different settings for rendering times

Only adds to time

I appreciate your responses

It seems like my computer can't handle the workload

I hope I have given you the information you need

Times went down 2 minutes with render threads at 16

And I had a setting an associate put in my nvidia Control panel I had to wipe my laptop and reinstall everything when I installed a 32gb ram in the laptop

That with testing was able to render a old edit in Vegas 19 same settings in program..in 26 minutes. I opened that same project in Vegas 21 build 208 and it says and 1hour and 13 min

Just sharing that info I'm new to forums

I don't know the format to ask questions

There are too many variables here for me to give useful advice. Keep VEGAS on the default settings as you don't have a reason to change them yet.

Which benchmark did you try- VP 20 sample project? 7 minutes isn't good.

I recommend using a free app like HWINFO64 to see if you are thermally throttling during the render. https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

Before doing more tests turn off the PC and let it cool down (go for a walk, have dinner). Then try rendering the sample project to MagixAVC with NVENC with HWINFO64 open. Watch your CPU core and GPU temperatures and see if it says throttling for any of them.

If that's fine (temperatures aren't too high), the next question is what driver versions you are using. VEGAS help/ driver update can guide you to newer ones for your GPUs.

As for a 3 minute render taking an hour, that's probably due to some Fx you are using. AI enabled ones including denoise take a very long time to process and that is unavoidable.

OK sorry to bother

No reason to change them?

I thought you were supposed to modify for better performance. I guess not..

Yes the vp20 benchmark

Temps don't raise past 70c

Im using the newest nvidia driver available

In the update window in Vegas

I updated 3 days ago

I appreciate your time

I will retrieve the media info tomorrow and post

I know it's a avc1 file from a gh5 shot in 4k

Vlog -l

The nvidia control panel is the only system change and program change that I have done in 3 years of using the program and this is the first time my renders skyrocketed

OK understandable I am using one instance of neat video ver.3 and one instance of magic bullet looks on on every project...needed for dark lowlight shots...once again thank you.

Try the same render without the Fx to see if they go much faster. I also use NeatVideo (version 5) and does make good use of the GPU. Magic Bullet looks, I don't know.

I have two NVIDIA GPUs (RTX2080 and mobile GTX 1050) and haven't touched NVIDIA Control Panel.

To make VEGAS work slightly faster I undervolted my laptop (stopped when it blue screened) and increased CPU GHz on my desktop until I couldn't cool it enough. I also mildly increased the GPU clock speeds.

For media, AVC should decode fine with Radeon Graphics assuming that driver is also not ancient.
HEVC depends on which kind of HEVC it is.
That's just decoding though, the bottleneck may be processing the Fx.

I have a asus g14 zephyrus 2020 edition using g-helper...

it has settings to do that.

.undervolt...clock speed cpu.

..I'm just have never done if before...

most recent driver for amd and nvidia installed clean with ddu

Where would I apply the amd settings? In gpu acceleration of video processing or file I/o

In my test amd could not process efx and crashed rendering a 1080p file soon as you hit render can't even begin

The default setting for VEGAS should select NVIDIA for preferences/ video and AMD for hardware decoding in file io. There's no reason to change it in general.

For a render crash that's not good. Did a crash report screen come up? What did it say in "show problem details"?

OK I'll reset and test today yes setting amd in pref and i/O instant crash...ill reset vegas and nvidia control and try to render. Last time I did that the render time went up to 10 hours

With nothing changed and the same times

During render

Is it safe to say my laptop can not render with this program

I have deadlines so I redid the project to test different programs same laptop

I have capcut

And DaVinci resolve

They breeze through the project on editing timeline fluid with same preference and render settings..almost zero frame dropping

And capcut was able to render same remade 3 min project in 1 min Davinci 7 min

Vegas over an hour. This is why I assumes it was internal settings in Vegas or nvidia to tweak to match performance

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With your suggestion to reset everything I did and ran your benchmark it rendered in 5:33

Hmm, that AVC file (8-bit 4K60 AVC) should be easy for VEGAS to deal with.

If AMD decoding isn't doing well you could change file io hardware decoding to NVDEC or off and see if that helps any.

5:33 still isn't great for the benchmark but isn't terrible either. I'm not sure why your system isn't performing better here.

Undervolting, increasing clock speed, etc. may help 5% so I wouldn't worry about it at this time. The undervolting is mainly useful to me as it reduces heat which means my laptop can run at a higher clock speed for longer before it starts to throttle. If you don't see a decrease in clock speeds during the render or warnings of throttling in HWINFO, that isn't a problem for you.

I'm running a 24 timeline with the 60 file but getting no encoding or decoding movement in windows task manager...when I render.. Maybe 6 percent

What are your settings for this test? Encoding or decoding would be on the selected GPU.

For example, for the VP 20 benchmark the 3D calculation part is so resource intensive there will be a bit of decoding and encoding every few seconds but then the GPU has to wait to finish the rest before any more decoding or encoding activity can occur.

Your benchmark test

I did the recommended settings

you had in the post for the 20 test

No movement on decode or encode no matter what project I try to render...

Andall 3d in task manager all 100% the whole render

I think you should unselect the post that says the problem was solved so other people will also look at this.

So the test you did is with the VP 20 benchmark. Great. At parts of that project there is no video to decode (just pictures, text).

For this other project:

I'm running a 24 timeline with the 60 file but getting no encoding or decoding movement in windows task manager

You are getting no decoding with Radeon Graphics selected in preferences, file io and enable legacy AVC decoding unchecked?

Thank you for your constant response

nvidia is selected in preferences

Selecting amd in preference it will not render (memory issue)

I have nvida 2060 maxq or amd ryzen 9 4900hs

I get the best fastest render with legacy avc checked and enable legacy gpu rendering

"nvidia is selected in preferences"
Which preference are you talking about? There is preferences/ video and preferences/ file io/ hardware decoding

Legacy AVC disables GPU decoding so you will see no activity there.
Legacy rendering won't use NVENC or VCE so you will see no activity there.