Filter rendering times

ians wrote on 1/14/2003, 6:26 AM
Sorry if this is an already answered question (I did search the forum but found nothing 100% relevant).

I am interested to know which are the "heavy" filters and which are "light" when it comes to render duration. Also, if there are any attributes of filters that make it "heavier".

For example, I understand that Median is a bit of a hog.

Thanks . . .Ian . . .

Comments

wcoxe1 wrote on 1/14/2003, 9:09 AM
Definitely, Median is a time killer. Do a search on filters on this forum, you should find abundant comments.
BillyBoy wrote on 1/14/2003, 9:44 AM
My experience is most of the more common FX filters, like levels, color balance, color curves, HSL don't really slow down the render to the point it becomes painfully slow. In fact I did some experiements early on when I was first got Vegas, darn if I can find where I put my notes comparing render times.

As I've hinted at in a couple recent posts is if you are going to render to multiple file types like I always seem to do, one "secret" for lack of a better word is if I render to 'print to tape' via AVI, from the finished project file still on the timeline the initial render as expected is rather slow. However once rendered, instead of rendered again from the project with all the source files I instead close down the project, start a new project and simply drop in the just rendered file, then render from that under the different file type. The process is anywhere from five to eight times faster in my experience. I'm sure I'm not the only one that discovered this little speed "secret" on their own.
snicholshms wrote on 1/14/2003, 11:53 AM
That's the best way I've found too, BillyBoy. Once you have a clean .avi "master" then any MPEG.WMV renders are of much higher quality than if the project were rendered directly to MPEG/WMV from the timeline. I didn't know this when I first started using VV3 and was disappointed in the first few MPEGs. This Forum taught me that MPEG/WMV compression of several layers with any FX in a timeline project produces artifacts and what appears to be visual "blems".

I'm always producing several file types from an original .avi master. Clients and friends almost always want several formats to give to their family members and friends. I always show them examples of each option and their application, too.

For example, my client might be fifty something and only want a VHS tape for their parents (not many 70 to 80 year olds have a DVD player!) AND the client wants a DVD for themselves (Boomers love electronic toys!). Boomer's kids might be 20 to 30 and want a DVD (5.1 thank you very much VV4!) AND a VCD or CD-ROM to take to the office and show their friends! This age group may also want a .WMV copy for streaming from their personal website!
Steve
BillyBoy wrote on 1/14/2003, 12:21 PM
What I like to do for myself for those "special" videos is render a ultra high bitrate RM copy. I know Real Media has got knocked (and with good reason for their stupid phone home crap that once was built into their player) but if you disable that (you can) and you render to 3 MBPS if you're just going to play off your PC, the quality is excellent and the compression is still decent. Me being a uncureable knob twister have opened a couple players side by side on my desktop and to me at least the RM quality at HIGH bitrates is better and seems to have richer color depth then just about any file format you can play off the computer.