First Wedding Edit - Cutting Methodology ?

fausseplanete wrote on 11/11/2008, 2:34 PM
My first time editing a full-blown wedding. Vegas offers a lot of flexibility, but how best to use it? Four cameras were present; first they are assembled and sync'd on the Timeline, itself time-offset to correspond to the clock time of the actual event (to simplify rough positioning of timecoded footage). Use Track Motion to put them into quadrants (quarters) of the screen. Sync them more accurately based on waveform or visual correspondence etc. Routine stuff so far...

But now it's time to edit...

For my normal fare, namely lectures and music events where most of the content must remain in place, time is preserved continuous (not fractured) and only a few unwanted bits need to be removed or one or two segments are moved in time as cutaways. For that all I need to do is sync everything then use Vegas's MultiCam, which works very effectively. Dead easy, relatively speaking.

However for a wedding there is a huge footage-to-target ratio, and massive scope for potential resequencing of cutaways etc. Hard to get the head around what is the best method to cope with this. Not sure that straightforward use of multicam will be sufficient.

I abandon any idea of whittling away at the above project as a single whole. I first copy it to trimmed-down sections for Church (arrivals, main ceremony, service, photos etc.) and for Reception (etc.). Then I copy the tracks and make a Vegas Multicam track and mute out the copied tracks (only needed as a safety measure). I group all the tracks so that when I cut or copy (events on) any track I cut and copy (corresponding events on) every track. Then for each section, I regard this project (just a synced set of footages relevant to that section) as a "pallete" from which I can pick and choose elements to go into a destination "real" project for that section.

For each section, I split out subsets of the multicam track (and, thanks to grouping, all related event copies) from the Pallette-Project then copy or drag them to the proper project where they will be abutted in sequence. So I will use the Palette-Project only like a big multi-track trimmer (which suggests a possible evolution of the Trimmer concept?).

Is this a typical method? Or is there a better one?

Comments

L8R wrote on 11/11/2008, 6:49 PM
wow, you lost me at "my first time editing"....
I don't know if it's just the explaination but it sounds like you in my opinion are doing a lot of unnecessary steps.
when I do my weddings... I have a selection of premade folders, to keep things neat and tidy. artwork, timelines, music,screen captures, raw footage and track renders.
everything goes into the corosponding folders.
I use 3 cameras. I lay all the video tracks on top of one another, and sound the same. Main camera on top.
I sync the footage first roughly by wav form then with camera flashes. Since it is a wedding there are many to choose from. The camera flash is one frame. Find the same in all... boom it's synced.
for the the pre-ceremony I just chop it all up to all the good clean footage ( to be assembled later). Ceremony, I do cutaways of the track portions I don't want, revealing the others below or above. Post ceremony same as pre-ceremony. That's one project. Reception is much like the other having the introductions, speeches and dances like the ceremony, cut-aways. All the rest I chop to the best footage.
I make a timeline with the raw footage. A second once I have it synced, a third when it's rough cut and a forth when it's reassembled.... that way your ass is covered if you delete something or the layers shift out place.
After everything is rough-cut. I add the music and reassemble the footage to music, adding the transitions and fx.
I don't know, to each their own, that's what works for me.
I used to do a seperate project for each of pre, ceremony, post, and reception. Now I just do two. Pre to Post (picture sessions) and reception. I devide the first project into the sections above and lock each of the sections right of what I am working on so as to not "un-sync" the other stuff. Once I complete a section I lock it behind me.
When you are dealing with that much footage. It is very easy to get lost.

biggles wrote on 11/11/2008, 6:59 PM
I deliberately fire off a flash on a cheap disposable camera after I've got all camera's rolling before the action gets under way - that way there is no doubt as to which camera flash you are 'synching' to.

For multi-camera edits there are a number of options:

(1)UltimateS plugin
(2)Excalibur plugin
(3)Vegas itself

I have both UltimateS and Excalibur and use the Quad-cam option in UltimateS but it would be a matter of trying all the options and seeing which one best suited your workflow and your editing 'head-set'

Wayne
TeetimeNC wrote on 11/12/2008, 4:48 AM
Instead of using the track motion to set up the four cams, why not use the multi-cam feature built into Vegas. Works a treat.

Jerry
Zelkien69 wrote on 11/12/2008, 5:35 AM
no need to time offset. just set the timecode to what you would like to start at in Vegas . it sounds as though you would have hours of dead space before the timeline would match the actual time of the preceremony coverage.
L8R wrote on 11/12/2008, 6:31 AM
I've tried using the multi cam. I don't really like it as much as I thought I would.
I prefer to mute the track(s) above. check out the lower ones and see what and where to cut or shift footage.
fausseplanete wrote on 11/12/2008, 12:34 PM
@Zelkien69: I put the cursor to the beginning of the tracks, then on the timecode number above the track controls I rightclick >"Time at Cursor," then enter the timecode of the start of the first footage. So there is no dead space at the start,