What you point out could be the issue. And it brings up the , very ood thing about VV that I have wondred about.

Footage is 30p DV
project is 30.000000
Render to new track is 29,97, because thats the only option
Just like the render settings, VV has no 30.000000 render setting.

I dont understand this.

Where did you get this source material? DV is supposed to be 29.97 or 25.

the panasonic dvx shoots 30p. I shot it that way to avoid interlacing when footage is played on computer DVD players.

Read the white paper on the Panny DVX100.

I dont understand why you suggest the dvx white paper in regarde to 30p.
Is 30p that unusual? It was through quite a bit of research and sugestions on the 2 pop DVX forum that ichoose 30p for a DVD that will be viewed on TVs and computers.

as always , thanks for any help though

Am I missing something here? One person says DV is 29.97 or 25. Another tells me to read a white paper- I have three hours of edited 30p footage so I dont see how the DVX white paper will help me now in VV.

And as has heppened several times before, the moderator asks a question and never follows up.


Bottom line, I can turn the rendered track on and off and the image moves. I thought it was normal, but I guess its not since no one confirmed that.

I hope you dont think Im complianing, just wish i knew why. This board is the most helpful board ive ever seen. thanks for any help.

NTSC DV=29.97 frames per second, 60i
PAL DV = 25.00 frames per second, 50i

The EPM has a lot to do, particularly with the DV Expo happening in 2 days...I just happened to be in looking for something myself, in defense of the EPM's...

30p is not common, not at all, for editing. it's an output format, and must be done correctly.
Where did the footage originate? If it was an NTSC DV camera, it was 60i, period. That's a standard, not a feature or anything else. I've certainly never heard of a camera that shoots 30p. Many DV cams shoot progressive, or approximate progressive with 'frame mode' which isn't the same thing, and is foolish to shoot in most situations with because of the problems it can embue.
Either way, excepting the Panasonic 24P cams, ALL DV is 29.97 in NTSC land, and ALL PAL DV is 25.00 frames per second. It's also all interlaced at the camera, except in specific circumstances, which means that you are really talking about 59.94 half frames per second (i) or 50 half frames per second. (i)

"Where did the footage originate?"

Panny AG-DVX100

Like I said, someone on the DVX forum at 2pop recomende3d shooting at 30p.
Maybe i still dont get it. Anyway, its too late now. I just have to figure out hoe to render this. Its kind of odd that QuickTime and MPEG both render at 30 but avi does not.

I read most of the other posts to this time.

What is the nature of your sync problem? Sounds like it is constant (it doesn't get worse as the video progresses.) I think the 29.97 vs 30 is probably a bogus issue. The 29.97 is standard NTSC and 30 or 60 are just rounded shorthand that refer to the same timebase.

The DVX100 is known to have slight audio vs video offset. I think it is 2 frames but it never bothered me and I never looked. Does this help explain things at all? Was the audio and video in sync as it was first imported from the camera?

From your post I gathered that something shifted after rendering. Not sure from the description what you started with (did you add or edit something) and what exactly changed. A more precise explanation of what was being rendered and exactly what shifted in the process might help.