FrameServer Plugin Question

kf wrote on 4/27/2003, 9:14 PM
Hi,

This is a great Plugin. But few question.
I tried the FrameServer Plugin in Ulead Media Pro with Vegas 4. What's the correct usage for the Frameserver? Look like to me this FrameServer is only for temporary use. The temp file created by the frameserver is NOT usable whenever I stop the Ulead media pro. If the project go for few more days, how can I persist the file? Or I need to render the avi file out? If this is the case, FrameServer is only for temporary feeding video/audio from program to program.

Can I suggest that whenever I "stop" frame serving, the plugin will automatic delete the temp file? Sometime, I click on the temp file in Window Explorer a message box come up. And I have to use Task Manager to kill it.
Thanks

Comments

BillyBoy wrote on 4/27/2003, 10:29 PM
If you're going to frame serve it should be the first or last thing you do. Meaning you do it as a pre step or post of what else you're doing. While the plug-in is a nice one, I'm personally not a big fan of frame serving. If I need to do any noise reduction for example, then I find it simpler and MUCH faster to do it first in VirtualDub, then open the created and corrected AVI file in Vegas. How it works with other applications I haven't tried... yet.
satish wrote on 4/27/2003, 11:16 PM
Sure, i will add that 'delete-file-after-serving'. Sorry didnt think of it. And yes, you have to keep running the original program from which the video is served, that is the concept of serving from one program to another without a temp file.
elCutty wrote on 4/28/2003, 2:11 AM
satish,
the new version 1.5.1 does not allow to minimize the serving application any longer. This is required to start the 'target' application e.g. encoder from the desktop icon. Will this be activated in the next version again?

Thank you for your great work!
mikkie wrote on 4/28/2003, 8:23 AM
RE: Frameserving in general...

If/when you need to get from point a to point e, it can normally take a few steps. As an example, I might take an avi file and open it in V/Dub to crop, resize, and filter it. But I also want to do some editing & work with the audio, so I'll open the avi file I rendered from V/Dub in Vegas, and render it again when I'm done. Finally I might want to encode the file using another prog, say the Quicktime encoder, or Real Helix Producer or...

Sometimes and for some folks going through a chain like that is cool. Others may prefer to do it in one step (or fewer steps) either for convenience, efficiency, or to avoid the quality hits you get in my example rendering to avi and later something like RealMedia.

The idea with frameserving is to take the output from one program and use it as the input for another, without rendering &/or creating an intermediary avi file, without having to manually go through each separate step. Since you're feeding one prog from another, all have to be running, and the final prog in the chain has to do something with the input, i.e.: render it to whatever file (s) for it to be useful.
DDogg wrote on 4/28/2003, 11:18 AM
"But I also want to do some editing & work with the audio, so I'll open the avi file I rendered from V/Dub in Vegas.."

mikkie, you do know you can frameserve to Vegas from VDub and not take the render hit, yes?
DDogg wrote on 4/28/2003, 11:21 AM
Works for me. Click on the minimize button on the frameserver window, not the minimize on MSP. Let us know if that does it for you.
elCutty wrote on 4/28/2003, 11:54 AM
You'r right, I'm sorry to have botthered you, but it works different in the FS I used to use with AP6 ;-)

Thanks again for the great work!