functional limits of Vegas

JHendrix wrote on 7/5/2009, 2:22 PM
I don't normally "edit/work with" projects that run 24 + hours but at the beginning I like to put all media in a timeline as a sort of "Master" that I can always go back to.

I was just doing this and Vegas started bogging down and then crashing before I could get all the media in.


Heres what I have in:

Track 1: about 24 hours of P2

Track 2: about 24 hours of HDV

Track 3: about--- 20 --- hours of QuickTime Screen Capture


Here is what is crashing Vegas

Track 3: Trying to drag in the last 4 hours of QuickTime Screen Capture

Same files drag into new session no prob.

Copy from other session into Master session also crashes Vegas.




Comments

TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/5/2009, 2:25 PM
holy cow pies... that's a lot of footage. :D

but, possible simplest solution: convert the QT to DV files (or HDV if they're HDV quality). I'd suggest super to batch convert all of those.
JHendrix wrote on 7/5/2009, 2:31 PM
solved ( i guess)

I just chopped the project in half and it became more manageable



still like to know the limits of Vegas

I know Pro Tools has a certain time limit


musicvid10 wrote on 7/5/2009, 3:30 PM
You have probably set a record for project size in the Vegas world.

A 24 hour project I would probably split into 6 separate projects.
JHendrix wrote on 7/5/2009, 5:03 PM
wonder why a longer project makes Vegas choke
musicvid10 wrote on 7/5/2009, 5:20 PM
Memory.

The undo / redo buffer is a big part of this, but there are other things too.
TheHappyFriar wrote on 7/5/2009, 6:35 PM
like the external codecs being called (IE quicktime).

I've never had vegas choke while making a project, only rendering.
Byron K wrote on 7/5/2009, 10:11 PM
Just curious, what did you use to chop the project in half? Did you re-render half the file in V9 or use another app?

Thanks!
Byron
JHendrix wrote on 7/6/2009, 5:37 AM
no, i just copied half of it into a new project....as mentioned though....I might have to split it out even more



all was well untill I brought in the QuciKTime....the QT still may prove to be a performance issue...
ushere wrote on 7/6/2009, 6:24 AM
remarkably strange way to edit.

are the 3 tracks made up of 24hrs of the same footage (ie multi cam with takes on tracks), or unique takes making up 74+hrs?

why would you put them on the tl all at once? and to what purpose?

i don't mean to be rude, but where did you learn to edit?

curious

leslie

btw - you do know about the trimmer?
winrockpost wrote on 7/6/2009, 6:43 AM
I'm getting impatient just thinking about vegas building peaks for 72 hours on the timeline,
JHendrix wrote on 7/6/2009, 7:58 AM
"are the 3 tracks made up of 24hrs of the same footage (ie multi cam with takes on tracks), or unique takes making up 74+hrs?"

multi cam with takes on tracks....total 24 hours

well, we have determined by now that Vegas doesn't like super long projects. but I do it simply to have a master to go back to because such long complicated projects can get messy and sometimes certian clips can be hard to find.

not that i would functionally edit with entire timeline (even though if i could I would)


the only choices are---

1 super long timeline

break it into pieces- but then when you need media from other sections you have to launch a separate instance of vegas, effectively bogging vegas down

use nested projects - which i do but it also bogs vegas down



JHendrix wrote on 7/6/2009, 9:38 AM
"but, possible simplest solution: convert the QT to DV files (or HDV if they're HDV quality). I'd suggest super to batch convert all of those."


1. what is super?

2. the files are 3359x1049, Apple Animation, 4-30FPS variable, stereo 44k
rmack350 wrote on 7/6/2009, 10:40 AM
No wonder it bogs down. Vegas will happily give you plenty of rope to hang yourself.

If I understand this correctly, this is just a reference timeline to use instead of the trimmer, marked trimmer regions, bins, etc.

SUPER is a conversion program with access to lots of codecs. Their website is a bit of a train wreck but here's the URL: http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html

BTW, and not that it matters, the simplest way to split a project in half seems to me to:
1- place a marker in the middle of the project
2- Save as MyProject_Part1.veg
3- Save again as MyProject_Part2.veg
4- go to marker and split all tracks
5- Delete everything before the split and then do ctrl+shift+F ripple. Save
6- Close MyProject_Part2.veg, open MyProject_Part1.veg
7- Go to marker, Split all tracks, delete everything after the marker, Save

Maybe this is paranoia but I'd feel better doing it this way rather than relying on copy and paste. (And maybe there's a SNAFU with this that I'm not considering, like keyframes)

Rob Mack