FX Listing Redundancy (Bug)

Red Prince wrote on 5/1/2018, 7:09 PM

This is in Vegas Pro 15, Build 321, under Windows 10, on the MSI GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro G. When listing the available FX, many of them are listed many times over. Please see the enclosed video and watch the upper left corner, where I am scrolling through the list. Right at the beginning, for example the Add Noise FX is listed more times than fit in the list window! Then there are BCC plugins, each listed only once, but then the Black and White and later the Brightness and Contrast FX are listed many times, etc.

It only seems to affect the FX that come with Vegas natively.

A similar problem (not shown in the video) happens when listing Media Generators.

The problem is really frustrating and highly annoying.

Adam

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

Comments

Grazie wrote on 5/1/2018, 11:20 PM

Yes, illogical and hair-ripplingly maddening. Be assured this is happening on Win7 too.

It’s been present for at least four years, if not longer. It existed prior to the MAGIX purchase from SONY and, for a few third party FXs it’s got worse. I don’t see any way I can reorder the FX listings and make logical sense of it. Also the FX search facility is turgidly, molasses-like. It’s takes so long that by the time it’s decided to give me what I wanted I’ve nearly forgotten just what I was searching for!?! 😡

I have a mental list of outstanding development bugs that point towards, in these vital areas, IMO, Vegas being neglected.

matthias-krutz wrote on 5/2/2018, 3:09 AM

I have not had any problems since my last computer installation. But I also have only a few third-party FX. Nevertheless, the search takes a long time.


I've created my own separate folder in the Plug-In Manager, in which I have pulled some frequently used FX. The selection is easy to customize and the access is clear and very fast with Plug-In Chooser...

Desktop: Ryzen R7 2700, RAM 32 GB, X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, Radeon RX 5700 8GB, Win10 2004

Laptop: T420, W10, i5-2520M 4GB, SSD, HD Graphics 3000

VEGAS Pro 14-18, Movie Studio 12 Platinum, Vegasaur, HOS, HitfilmPro

NickHope wrote on 5/2/2018, 4:28 AM

I've never seen this issue and still don't on VP15 build 321 under Windows 10 Pro version 1511.

(I agree about easier organisation and searching of plug-ins, and think it has to be very near the top of the list of basic things that just need improving. Magix, if this isn't in the plan for VP16, please consider putting it in!)

Former user wrote on 5/2/2018, 4:41 AM

That never happened here. I had never seen it. I do as the @matthias-krutz to organize my plugins.

have you tried resetting your vegas by holding down CTRL + SHIFT and double-clicking the VEGAS icon? This will list all the plugins again and maybe organize them correctly. The way it is being shown is not correct.

Red Prince wrote on 5/2/2018, 9:24 AM

have you tried resetting your vegas by holding down CTRL + SHIFT and double-clicking the VEGAS icon?

I actually have to do that a lot (sometimes several times a day) because otherwise Vegas tends to freeze at the point of Loading Windows (when starting up) and the only way I can get out of that is kill Vegas and reset it. Though that does not help with this particular issue.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

Former user wrote on 5/2/2018, 10:08 AM

I have never seen this in my versions (currently on 12).

OldSmoke wrote on 5/2/2018, 10:35 AM

I have never seen it in any of my versions, 7-14.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Grazie wrote on 5/2/2018, 11:16 AM

I have. I’m special. 😎

OldSmoke wrote on 5/2/2018, 11:28 AM

I have. I’m special. 😎


Not really... as you can see you are not alone.😏

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

jetdv wrote on 5/3/2018, 6:58 AM

have you tried resetting your vegas by holding down CTRL + SHIFT and double-clicking the VEGAS icon?

I actually have to do that a lot (sometimes several times a day) because otherwise Vegas tends to freeze at the point of Loading Windows (when starting up) and the only way I can get out of that is kill Vegas and reset it. Though that does not help with this particular issue.


When you do this, make sure you check the "Clear Cache" box which will force it to rescan all plugins.

Red Prince wrote on 5/3/2018, 9:04 AM

Well, right now it looks normal again. But it happens every so often, and the programmers need to be aware of it.

He who knows does not speak; he who speaks does not know.
                    — Lao Tze in Tao Te Ching

Can you imagine the silence if everyone only said what he knows?
                    — Karel Čapek (The guy who gave us the word “robot” in R.U.R.)

Grazie wrote on 5/3/2018, 9:15 AM

@OldSmoke

Not really... as you can see you are not alone.😏

I’m, like, totally crushed Dude. 🙁