FYI - Windows 7 at a good price
Steve Mann
wrote on 5/21/2012, 9:36 AM
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Chienworks
wrote on 5/21/2012, 11:04 AM
$124.97 now.
john_dennis
wrote on 5/21/2012, 11:11 AM
$42 per seat x 3 = $126
Steve Mann
wrote on 5/21/2012, 11:31 AM
Jees - give you guys a tip and you quibble over the rounding....
By the end of the year all new PC's will have Windows 8, and I don't know how long you will be able to continue buying windows 7.
We have heard nothing from Sony Creative Software, but if you think the transition to GPU support was painful, the transition of Vegas to Windows 8 may be worse. Programmers have spent years learning .NET, Windows Communication Foundation (WCF) and Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF), and now they have to learn WinRT and Jupiter/XAML to run programs in Windows 8.
BTW - the Home Edition of Windows 8 will not have DVD playback capabilities.
It's not going to be pretty.
By the end of the year all new PC's will have Windows 8, and I don't know how long you will be able to continue buying windows 7.
We have heard nothing from Sony Creative Software, but if you think the transition to GPU support was painful, the transition of Vegas to Windows 8 may be worse. Programmers have spent years learning .NET, Windows Communication Foundation (WCF) and Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF), and now they have to learn WinRT and Jupiter/XAML to run programs in Windows 8.
BTW - the Home Edition of Windows 8 will not have DVD playback capabilities.
It's not going to be pretty.
rmack350
wrote on 5/21/2012, 12:54 PM
Thanks Steve,
If you need multiple Win7 licenses the family pack is a really good deal.
Rob
If you need multiple Win7 licenses the family pack is a really good deal.
Rob
JJKizak
wrote on 5/21/2012, 1:22 PM
At least I new what was going on in Windows 3.1. Maybe they will have a Windows 88 for old people.
JJK
JJK
rmack350
wrote on 5/21/2012, 1:54 PM
At least I new what was going on in Windows 3.1. Maybe they will have a Windows 88 for old people.
I often think that usability testing needs to include people over 75, in part because they can be very slow to absorb what they see on the screen. It it works for old people it'll work for anyone.
When I played with the Windows8 beta last month it eventually dawned on me that it was much the same as XP, Vista, and Win7 beneath the interface. It was the presentation that was different.
rob
I often think that usability testing needs to include people over 75, in part because they can be very slow to absorb what they see on the screen. It it works for old people it'll work for anyone.
When I played with the Windows8 beta last month it eventually dawned on me that it was much the same as XP, Vista, and Win7 beneath the interface. It was the presentation that was different.
rob
mudsmith
wrote on 5/21/2012, 2:15 PM
What I am hearing from a computer pro or two on one of my audio forums is that none of us should even think about leaving Win7........these guys are saying that Win8 is a bona fide disaster designed to solve problems (i.e. for tablets) that none of us have.
These same folks are quite positive about Win7, so let's hope there are no availability or support problems on the horizon.
These same folks are quite positive about Win7, so let's hope there are no availability or support problems on the horizon.
AtomicGreymon
wrote on 5/21/2012, 2:42 PM
Although a lot of people probably don't care about DVD playback anymore, buying all their videos online from iTunes or wherever, no doubt a lot of people will still be frustrated if their new Windows 8 PC shows up and Media Player tells them encrypted DVD playback isn't supported. Apparently, you'll need to buy Windows 8 Pro and an extra media codec pack in order to get DVD playback, which seems like more of a pain than it's worth. Most pre-built computers will probably come with an OEM version of PowerDVD or something to preempt the customer complaints.
I remember the early days of the DVD format, when Windows Media Player didn't come with CSS decryption out-of-the-box. Hard to believe they're going back to that, when even free codec packs like K-Lite or CCCP add DVD support for free. They should be adding native commercial Blu-Ray support to Media Player, not removing features to save a couple bucks.
I doubt it'll be hard getting Windows 7 licenses after Windows 8 comes out, though. At computer shops around here, I can still get Windows XP and Vista OEM licenses in addition to 7.
I remember the early days of the DVD format, when Windows Media Player didn't come with CSS decryption out-of-the-box. Hard to believe they're going back to that, when even free codec packs like K-Lite or CCCP add DVD support for free. They should be adding native commercial Blu-Ray support to Media Player, not removing features to save a couple bucks.
I doubt it'll be hard getting Windows 7 licenses after Windows 8 comes out, though. At computer shops around here, I can still get Windows XP and Vista OEM licenses in addition to 7.
rmack350
wrote on 5/21/2012, 2:50 PM
I'm sure Win7 will be available for quite a while, and I have no doubt you'll be able to turn Metro off in Win8. Once you turn Metro off things should look about the same as Win7 since the folder structures are about the same under that interface.
One thing Metro seemed to be doing was driving me to type the names of programs. That's also there in Win7 but it's not as obvious. The other thing it did was show me EVERYTHING that is in the Start Menu. Once you realize that's what you're looking at, it's kind of an improvement. In Win7 I've just stopped trying to manage the Start Menu and let programs do what they want with it. The Start menu's kind of become unnavigable in Win7 (IMO). So Win8's full screen view of EVERYTHING, with keyboard navigation, actually would speed things up for me. But it took a while to realize that it was showing me the whole Start menu.
I'm just not going to worry about Win8. Not an issue.
One thing Metro seemed to be doing was driving me to type the names of programs. That's also there in Win7 but it's not as obvious. The other thing it did was show me EVERYTHING that is in the Start Menu. Once you realize that's what you're looking at, it's kind of an improvement. In Win7 I've just stopped trying to manage the Start Menu and let programs do what they want with it. The Start menu's kind of become unnavigable in Win7 (IMO). So Win8's full screen view of EVERYTHING, with keyboard navigation, actually would speed things up for me. But it took a while to realize that it was showing me the whole Start menu.
I'm just not going to worry about Win8. Not an issue.
Chienworks
wrote on 5/21/2012, 4:08 PM
Still mostly (almost entirely) XP here.
It turns out that the list of software i need/want to use that works under XP and not Win7 is larger and growing faster than the list of software i might consider using that works under Win7 and not under XP.
I have found one bright light in all the gloom though. A Win7 PC with Oracle's VirtualBox can run XP better than XP runs natively on the bare metal. So, over the next few years i can see myself with a pile of Win7/Win8 computers who's *ONLY* running program is VirtualBox, with all my XP stuff still happily chirping away inside it.
It turns out that the list of software i need/want to use that works under XP and not Win7 is larger and growing faster than the list of software i might consider using that works under Win7 and not under XP.
I have found one bright light in all the gloom though. A Win7 PC with Oracle's VirtualBox can run XP better than XP runs natively on the bare metal. So, over the next few years i can see myself with a pile of Win7/Win8 computers who's *ONLY* running program is VirtualBox, with all my XP stuff still happily chirping away inside it.