getting midi to audio in vegas

troven wrote on 6/24/2003, 10:33 AM
i constanly come up with this problem:

all my drum tracks are midi sequences in cakewalk pro-audio 9 triggering my akai s6000. i can get vegas 4 to generate MTC and have cakewalk slave to it and play along in decent sync. however, when i try to record it - the sync lags over time and sometimes the midi just plain miss fires. ideally i'

i know there are a lot of paremeters here (breifly my base setup is a p3 600 512MB a layla24 and an amt8) but i'm wondering how other people eventually audio-ize their midi for mixdown. i don't use an external mixer because i like the ability to do everything on screen and then have vegas render to a final output 88.2 24bit wave file.

any tips or suggestions? should i get a submixer and hook it up to the sampler and just mix everything and record to 2-track and then worry about lining everything up manually?

damn drummers are a problem even when they're not around...

t

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momo wrote on 6/25/2003, 11:11 AM
I do all my midi work in Cubase, and then import to Vegas by rendering the individual midi drum tracks to wavs in Cubase. The tracks are zero-referenced (all start at 00:00:000 in the project), so I simply bring in the individual drums wavs to Vegas as separate tracks. If I'm adding drums after I've already recorded audio in Vegas (clicked at specific BPM), I just bring a mixed render into Cubase, perform and edit the midi at same BPM, and then do the above to bring the drums back over Vegas. No clock or any other sort of syncing required. It may be crude, but it's easy and works fine for me.

mo

MJhig wrote on 6/25/2003, 12:13 PM
You could try synching to MIDI Clock, Vegas will transmit MIDI Clock and PA 9 will slave to it.

Or, do as momo suggests only in PA 9 and in real-time. Set up an audio track to correspond to each MIDI track (MIDI Snare, Audio Snare, etc.).

If the Akai has separate audio outs then you can set up each audio track in PA 9 to a separate input and record several tracks simultaneously. If not you will have to do one at a time by soloing the (I.E.) MIDI Snare track and arm the Audio Snare track, click record and record the audio output from the Akai for the snare.

Repeat the process until you have each voice on a separate audio track in PA 9 then select each audio track one by one and export.

MJ
fosko wrote on 8/4/2003, 1:10 PM
Similarly I ran into the same problem in Cubase. I just couldnt get a decent sync. What I decided to do..(again.. crude, but it works) is :
1) record my MIDI tracks to Audio in Cubase
2) Solo the track
3) make sure that the locator markers are set to 0:00:00 as a beginning and whatever the end of your song is
4) From the Master Volume Export to Audio file.
I did this for each track. Itlines up perfectly.

on paper and in a perfect world.. the Virtual Midi Router would just run the sequencer and I'd record into Vegas.. but I could either never get the thing to work.. or was not satisfied with the sync
PeterWright wrote on 8/5/2003, 8:41 PM
I do a similar thing, from Logic Audio.

Only difference, rather than worrying about starting at 0.00, I solo each track PLUS a common hi hat count in, then that same count-in appears on every track and is easy to sync in Vegas.