giving up on using 2 cards

Mindmatter wrote on 8/18/2015, 5:48 AM
Hi all,
just a quick follow up on my experimenting on using the R290 and the GTX570
simultaneously. While it seemed to work like a charm for a day or two, with V13 not complaining, it all of a sudden crashed on startup and would not load at all anymore.
The splashscreen " Vegas has stopped working" comes up right after startup, again and again.
As soon as I took out the second card, ( I tried swapping position in the slots too ), V13 would work normally again. Same thing with the cards swapped, 2 days of good work, all normal, and then crash after crash.
On a side note, NB Titler pro 4 had crashed suspiciously often while using the 2 cards. Dunno if that's got anything to do with it.
So it's back to my initial config with the R290 only.

Btw trying to pull out a large card that is stuck in the silly black plastic hook in the slot is a major PITA!

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 12x 3.7 GHz
32 GB DDR4-3200 MHz (2x16GB), Dual-Channel
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 8GB GDDR6, HDMI, DP, studio drivers
ASUS PRIME B550M-K, AMD B550, AM4, mATX
7.1 (8-chanel) Surround-Sound, Digital Audio, onboard
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 250GB, NVMe M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
be quiet! System Power 9 700W CM, 80+ Bronze, modular
2x WD red 6TB
2x Samsung 2TB SSD

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ushere wrote on 8/18/2015, 7:48 AM
i would have thought using mixed cards (nvidia and amd) would have been asking for problems in the first place?
Chienworks wrote on 8/18/2015, 8:17 AM
I also thought it had been determined that Vegas only uses the GPU on one card anyway.

Not that i would know anything about this stuff. I still don't have even one GPU in my editing machine.
OldSmoke wrote on 8/18/2015, 9:00 AM
When I tested this about two years back I tested a GTX570 with HD6970. In my case, both cards fall within the fully supported cards range. The other major difference is that the 5820 CPU has only 28 PCIe lanes versus 40 on the 3930K and that the OP mixed PCIe 3.0 with 2.0.

In my setup, I had the HD6970 in the lower slot and the GTX570 in the first slot. It is also important to use the right drivers, in my case that was Nvidia 296.10 and Catalyst 13.7. The HD6970 was set in Vegas for GPU support but I used CUDA when rendering with MC AVC. This was the fasted rendering times I ever got. The HD6970 was preparing the frame with OpenCL and the GTX570 used CUDA to render it out... so to speak. Not even SCS could explain why this worked but it did.

If I find some time I will do some more testing as I still have one of my GTX580's lying around. Unfortunately, the water blocks on the Nvidia and AMD cards have there water connection in different locations making it difficult to have these two cards in the system; I need to buy some fittings to get that done but I am still interested to see how that will workout.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Mindmatter wrote on 8/18/2015, 9:26 AM
Thanks Oldsmoke. The weird thing is that it works a day or two, and only then starts to crash.
I'm also not really after shorter render times, I mainly want a smoother preview.

A weird thing I also strated to notice is that when putting clips on a video track above another video track, preview is slowed down although Vegas only has to play the above track that covers the others. It's as if Vegas read and processed the track underneath alhtough it doesn't have to.

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 12x 3.7 GHz
32 GB DDR4-3200 MHz (2x16GB), Dual-Channel
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 8GB GDDR6, HDMI, DP, studio drivers
ASUS PRIME B550M-K, AMD B550, AM4, mATX
7.1 (8-chanel) Surround-Sound, Digital Audio, onboard
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 250GB, NVMe M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
be quiet! System Power 9 700W CM, 80+ Bronze, modular
2x WD red 6TB
2x Samsung 2TB SSD

OldSmoke wrote on 8/18/2015, 9:34 AM
@Mindmatter

If it worked for a day or two and then doesn't that sounds more like an automatic Windows update upsetting the system.

The issue with Vegas slowing down with another track underneath has been discussed in this forum. I personally have not experienced it but keep in mind that Vegas is a compositor too and if there is even the slightest chance that something from the track below "shines through" the track above, Vegas will process it.

Proud owner of Sony Vegas Pro 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 & 13 and now Magix VP15&16.

System Spec.:
Motherboard: ASUS X299 Prime-A

Ram: G.Skill 4x8GB DDR4 2666 XMP

CPU: i7-9800x @ 4.6GHz (custom water cooling system)
GPU: 1x AMD Vega Pro Frontier Edition (water cooled)
Hard drives: System Samsung 970Pro NVME, AV-Projects 1TB (4x Intel P7600 512GB VROC), 4x 2.5" Hotswap bays, 1x 3.5" Hotswap Bay, 1x LG BluRay Burner

PSU: Corsair 1200W
Monitor: 2x Dell Ultrasharp U2713HM (2560x1440)

Mindmatter wrote on 8/18/2015, 10:02 AM
Oldsmoke, I did check the drivers mutiple times, and my auto update is disabled in Windows. It's quite weird indeed.
I started to mute video events underneath the main track and it does seem to help.
I also noticed that Titler pro did not quite seem to be able to decide which monitor to consider as primary. I'd work it on my secondary screen and as soon as I minimized TP, it retired to the other one, when enlarging it again, it would show up in a reduced form on the main monitor and I had to drag to and maximize it again on my secondary screen.

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 12x 3.7 GHz
32 GB DDR4-3200 MHz (2x16GB), Dual-Channel
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, 8GB GDDR6, HDMI, DP, studio drivers
ASUS PRIME B550M-K, AMD B550, AM4, mATX
7.1 (8-chanel) Surround-Sound, Digital Audio, onboard
Samsung 970 EVO Plus 250GB, NVMe M.2 PCIe x4 SSD
be quiet! System Power 9 700W CM, 80+ Bronze, modular
2x WD red 6TB
2x Samsung 2TB SSD

videoITguy wrote on 8/18/2015, 11:31 AM
The New Blue Titler app traditionally depends on a different GPU setting dependency and that is in fact different and separate from Sony VegasPro.

Hence getting these two apps to place nice concurrently in a complex video bus arrangement is not going to be easy.