Good or Best

Flack wrote on 8/30/2004, 9:41 AM
If I use the Best setting in the Properties box under Full Resolution Rendering Quality ,my Project throws an error up after 15 mins of rendering, the error is low on memory. I have 1.5 gigs of ram in this pc.

If I use the Good setting it will render without problems. Why does it throw this error up of low memory. Or how much ram do you need to use best setting.
If this setting is used what do you need to do to render without problems

Flack...

Comments

JeremyS wrote on 8/30/2004, 9:50 AM
I always render at best, and I've never gotten low memory. I only have 1GB of RAM.
Chienworks wrote on 8/30/2004, 9:55 AM
What sort of project are you working on? I suspect you probably have lots of large still images on the timeline. These take a lot more memory than video clips do.
Flack wrote on 8/30/2004, 10:03 AM
Chienworks


yes I do have a lot of still images on the intro with one image set to show through the other could this be it.. and if so how do I get around it...


thanks Flack
johnmeyer wrote on 8/30/2004, 10:12 AM
Remember that Best will only give you improvements with still pictures and a few other situations. For normal video rendering, it is -- according to Sony and other posts in this forum -- just needlessly going to waste time without giving you any quality improvement.

I will suggest -- again -- that Sony consider changing the names of the video render quality settings to reflect what they. do. They have made several choices in the Render As dialog that really hurt them in the competitive marketplace:

1. "Best" will slow down rendering. Any reviewer that chooses this thinking it will give some sort of comparison with the best that Premiere or some other program can produce will come up with a very slow rendering score for Vegas.

2. The "Default Template" that always comes up wihen you choose MPEG-2 has the quality slider set halfway between best and worst quality rather than all the way toward best. The resulting render is lousy quality. Many people have posted about how the quality is lousy when they render their DVD video from Vegas. This is the reason. Any reviewer using the default template to create a DVD will get similar result and will rank Vegas as having inferior video. So will most new users.
DGrob wrote on 8/30/2004, 10:28 AM
If you allow DVDA to render it's own mpegs from an avi, is there still a "medium" setting residing somewhere that will compromise the render? Or is it all just related to the default 8000 bitstream? Darryl
daryl wrote on 8/30/2004, 11:19 AM
That's a good question Darryl, I find that when I use an AVI in DVDA2, I get better quality output than rendering the mpg first (at high-quality). Am I right on this or just imagining?
DGrob wrote on 8/30/2004, 11:54 AM
I think you're right. 'Course I've been wrong before - 1987 I think. Darryl
tailgait wrote on 8/30/2004, 12:43 PM
your are RIGHT. Always render to .avi and then take that into DVDA2 and let it do it's work. You can help things along quality-wise by using the "optomize" feature. Use the slider to get the maximum bitrate for the size or length of your project.
Burt
scottshackrock wrote on 8/30/2004, 1:19 PM
but then again, sometimes if the quality slider in DVDA2 is set very high or very low (not at 8000), some DVD players will not read the discs.

I know, because mine will only read DVD's i make when the slider is left alone! Other people can agree to this.

However, most new DVD players on the market now even advertise "DVD-R discs accepted" - etc.
tjglfr wrote on 8/30/2004, 2:01 PM
When I rendered my first project for DVDA, I rendered to MPG2 before sending to DVDA. The problem was that I lost the Veg file, it no longer exists in the folder that I created for the project. Is this normal?
In my secod project I rendered to AVI first and sent it to DVDA and everything exists in the foilder. Me very happy.
Flack wrote on 8/30/2004, 6:36 PM
Just to get back to my original question, If I want to use the best setting how do I use it with a lot of still images in my project and not end up with a memory error.



Flack
JasonMurray wrote on 8/30/2004, 7:15 PM
You're probably right - rendering AVI to MPG in DVDA2 seems to take about twice as long as exporting an MPG, so I'd want better quality if I were you :)
johnmeyer wrote on 8/30/2004, 9:17 PM
Just to get back to my original question, If I want to use the best setting how do I use it with a lot of still images in my project and not end up with a memory error.

You could try resetting Vegas to all the defaults. Sometimes it can get into a weird state (you will lose all your custom settings if you do this). Press and hold Ctrl-Shift when you start Vegas, and all settings will be reset to factory default.
Flack wrote on 8/31/2004, 11:27 AM
johnmeyer thanks for your suggestion above it seems to have sorted it, I have just rendered my project at best and no errors...


Flack
stormstereo wrote on 8/31/2004, 11:33 AM
I made a 10 minute project with a LOT of animated PNG stills with alpha channel on the timeline and had to render at "Best" because some straight edges became jagged with "Good". No memory problems and I only have 768 Mb RAM.

What format are you using for the stills? If they are TIF you have to remember that Vegas depends on a reader outside of the program, which is installed with Quicktime. I recommend to use only PNG or TGA stills.

Best/Tommy
Flack wrote on 8/31/2004, 2:09 PM
The images used are jpegs and png files so there should be no problem there, like I posted earlier it has worked fine now since resetting to defaults, just tried it again for good measure and its fine.

Flack
johnmeyer wrote on 8/31/2004, 2:23 PM
Flack,

Glad the suggestion worked!