I found this effect, and others like it: Can I use this effect with Vegas Pro 17? If so, is there a tutorial available that shows how to use such a video on the timeline to get the smoke effect into my video? Thanks!
From the YT channel, you will need a YT Premium subscription in order to download this video to see what format (e.g. .mp4/,mov/etc) is video is provided in. As I don't have a YT Premium subscription (or want to trial it), it's hard to say if the format will be compatible with Vegas Pro 17 - and the YT channel information doesn't state the format. The only downlaod options for this video are 480p and 720p.
My best guess is that the video will be a video event (e.g. .mp4 or .mov) that is placed on an upper video track on VP's timeline and then the VEGAS Chroma Keyer FX applied to the green screen smoke event (chromakey is a YT keyword for the YT video) so that the green color is replaced by the image in the video event on the lower track.
Thanks, I downloaded the video from Youtube and here is what the MediaInfo says. Based on this info, will it work in Vegas? I didn't even think to look on youtube for the tutorial about how to use it, thanks for that too.
Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41) File size : 13.8 MiB Duration : 1 min 0 s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 1 916 kb/s Movie name : FREE Green screen smoke effects chroma key fog effects overlay vfx footage smoke fog Writing application : Lavf58.29.100
Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4 Format settings : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference frames : 3 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 1 min 0 s Bit rate : 1 782 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.029 Stream size : 12.8 MiB (93%) Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Codec configuration box : avcC
Audio ID : 2 Format : AAC LC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity Codec ID : mp4a-40-2 Duration : 1 min 0 s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 128 kb/s Maximum bit rate : 130 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 44.1 kHz Frame rate : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 943 KiB (7%) Default : Yes Alternate group : 1
@MikeLV, I downloaded the file, dropped on the timeline, placed an image under it, dropped Vegas Chroma Keyer on it, used the Color Picker and presto... not quite as good as an alpha channel, but it works.
I got the hang of the chroma keyer effect with the green screen files from youtube.. The only issue now is that the smoke dissipates too quickly. I need it to hide the subject for a longer period of time. What would be the best way to extend the short effect? Should I duplicate it and crossfade several events?
Layer the smoke. Look for more of it. Stretch the event (slowing it down) to see how it looks. Ctrl +Left Mouse button to drag the end of the smoke clip.
Combination of pan/crop, stretching, etc. seems to achieve what I need. I need a faster computer to do this kind of stuff apparently! I had to put the video preview on draft just to halfway be able to see it working 😅
Former user
wrote on 1/15/2024, 5:22 PM
@MikeLV Hi, once you've removed the green using Chromakey or whatever you used to remove the green render it as a ProRes XQ, it will then have an alpha channel (smoke + a transparent background), replace the green clip on the timeline with the ProRes & it will play a lot easier on your PC.
Can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Vegas version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments,
Thanks, I added the signature. I normally use Happy Otter Scripts to do all my rendering to MP4, but under "render as" I don't see a format in the list called ProRes XQ. Maybe it wasn't available in v17?
It looks like that ProRes import and export first appeared in Vegas Pro 19 build 532.
Another method to get an alpha channel is to render to 'Video for Windows' but in Customize Template change the Video format to 'Uncompressed' and check 'Render alpha channel (for supported codecs only}'. Frame size can also be changed if need be. The downside is that the rendered .avi file size will be huge.
Former user
wrote on 1/15/2024, 7:35 PM
Maybe it wasn't available in v17?
@MikeLV Ah sorry, I didn't take that into account.
I'm about to give this a try with the Magix Intermediate, but I notice there's several render templates to choose from:
My smoke clip is 1920x1080 at 60FPS, but the footage I'm going to use it with is 29.97FPS, so not entirely sure what to do here. Can I use the 60fps smoke with 29.97fps footage? Or should I encode the smoke to 29.97fps? And do I use 422, HQ or XQ? Thanks for your help!
Well this isn't good...... I rendered the chroma keyed smoke clip to "Intermediate XQ 29.97" as that was what @Former user said. I then dropped the rendered file on the top track of my video project, and it's just black behind the smoke, not transparent as he advised. Is there another step needed when putting the XQ clip onto my timeline to make it transparent? I also tried the 422 and HQ options, and they too were not transparent when I put them on the timeline.
As long as you rendered it with an Alpha Channel, once you bring it back into Vegas you have to tell it, under properties, that is has an alpha channe.
As long as you rendered it with an Alpha Channel, once you bring it back into Vegas you have to tell it, under properties, that is has an alpha channe.
When I go to the customize settings for Intermediate XQ, this is what it shows under the profiles. And there's nowhere else in the settings there that says "alpha channel"
The Magix intermediate may not support Alpha. You can use an uncompressed AVI format or any other format that does support alpha.What options do you have under the color space?
We decided to scrap the smoke effect; not enough time to get it done and where it looks good. Thanks for your help though. It's nice to know these green screen effects exist, and I learned how to use the chrome keyer too!