Has Vegas 6 resolved these problems?

craftech wrote on 4/6/2006, 6:25 PM

I hope that SonyEPM doesn't mind that I quote his post from 4/27/05.
I wanted to know as a Vegas 4 user who still has problems with flash frames if the rest of you concur with that post which stated the following:

"Some changes to V6 worth knowing about:

1) "Flash frames" - Although we have never ever repro'd this in house and have tried many times to do so, quite a few users have over the years reported an ERRANT, INCORRECT frame of video magically showing up in the middle of a rendered file. This is something that apparently (we're told) did not re-occur if you rebooted and rendered again...or it might surface in a different place. After drilling way down on this during Vegas 6 development, we believe this issue is solved...no reports of it so far, fingers crossed. Just to be really clear, this is NOT a rogue edit on the timeline.

and we also hope we've cut down on the possibility of rogue edits via the next item...

2) Prior to Vegas 6, if you captured DV and threw a bunch of these clips on the timeline, the audio and video event ends of the a/v pair would not precisely match up, might be a few samples off. In Vegas 6, we "trust" the video length of an a/v pair and pad or trim the audio a few samples so that the a and v end-edges match. Edge snapping to either end of the a/v pair puts the cursor in the exact same spot now, less chance of parking on an audio event end and splitting off a tiny video sliver (which would be very hard to see unless you zoomed way in and were looking for it)."

So,
Do the Vegas 6 users agree with this? Have these been resolved with Vegas 6?

John

Comments

Opampman wrote on 4/6/2006, 7:04 PM

Yes - I have never seen these again since V6 upgrade.

Jim H wrote on 4/6/2006, 7:17 PM

I've seen them and they are a pain. I've had to add events to cover them up as they cannot be edited out. Seems to me I had one on one of my last big projects, and feel certain it was with V6...but not 100% sure.

craftech wrote on 4/7/2006, 6:13 AM

Anyone else?

John

JJKizak wrote on 4/7/2006, 7:39 AM

I can create them by going to fast---in ripple edit highlight small video clip and audio underneath but really did not highlight the video clip then delete the highlighted sections and the video clip gets squeezed to 1 frame but you can't see it. This doesn't work all the time though as most of the time the video clip will mesh with the adjacent clip. I"m not sure though if there was a script making all 1 frame clips lets say 10 frames in duration so you could see them.

JJK

craftech wrote on 4/7/2006, 7:53 AM

video clip gets squeezed to 1 frame but you can't see it. This doesn't work all the time though as most of the time the video clip will mesh with the adjacent clip. I"m not sure though if there was a script making all 1 frame clips lets say 10 frames in duration so you could see them.
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How about if you expand the tracks into an A-B roll? Can you see them then?

Still doesn't seem to explain why the flash frames would show up in a completely different spot next time you render the same project.

Yesterday, I got two flash frames in a 1 hour video. This time the frames were actually swapped! The errant frame in one spot was swapped with the frame in the other. That's a peculiar first for me.

John

JJKizak wrote on 4/7/2006, 12:25 PM

I never tried the A & B thing. But I can see how those frames can get moved around real quick after a few moves. If something started flashing on the clip after the dasteredly deed like a red siren light on a cop car would be kool, indicating one frame is stuck behind this clip.

JJK

DCV wrote on 4/7/2006, 12:30 PM

I had this problem big time using nested veg files in the last project I was working on. Vegas 6.0d would show an out of place and zoomed portion of a frame during transitions in the nested veg. This problem was quite annoying but fortunately did not manifest itself during renders, only during previews. I tried rebuilding the proxies to no avail. Prerenders displayed fine. Somehow the problem went away between editing sessions and I haven't seen it since. I've seen the flash frames other times in the past using previous versions of Vegas.

John