HDV footage (?) chokes Vegas 12 up ?

fosko wrote on 5/3/2014, 10:53 PM
This footage was taken with a Sony Cam in HDV format. It was sent to me via Google Drive. When I down load it, it seems to play for a few seconds in Vegas (and Media Player) but then hangs and 'No Response'.

Even though I'm told it was in HDV format, Vegas says it's in AVCHD, whick I thought Vegas would read with no problem.

Maybe this will help:

General
Name: Tape 1.mp4
Folder: C:\Users\eef\Documents\foskomedia\Projects\Soul In Motion\30th Anniversary\CONCERT
Type: Sony AVC
Size: 6.99 GB (7,156,135,944 bytes)
Created: Saturday, May 03, 2014, 7:04:08 PM
Modified: Saturday, May 03, 2014, 7:44:27 PM
Accessed: Saturday, May 03, 2014, 7:04:08 PM
Attributes: Archive

Streams
Video: 01:02:56.206, 29.970 fps interlaced, 1440x1080x12, AVC
Audio: 01:02:56.206, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, AAC

ACID information
ACID chunk: no
Stretch chunk: no
Stretch list: no
Stretch info2: no
Beat markers: no
Detected beats: no

Other metadata
Regions/markers: no
Command markers: no

Media manager
Media tags: no

Plug-In
Name: compoundplug.dll
Folder: C:\Program Files\Sony\Vegas Pro 12.0\FileIO Plug-Ins\compoundplug
Format: Sony AVC
Version: Version 12.0 (Build 770) 64-bit
Company: Sony Creative Software Inc.

Comments

fosko wrote on 5/3/2014, 10:56 PM
I'm kind of thinking (guessing) Google may have something to do with it because when I veiw the file on google itself.. it's fine. It's only when I download it and try to use it I have issues.
NickHope wrote on 5/3/2014, 11:05 PM
The "Streams" info is right for HDV, but Vegas likes HDV in an MPEG-2 transport stream (.m2t), not AVC/AAC. Seems like the sender has captured it in an unconventional way, or converted it.

I suggest you try rendering it off your timeline into MPEG-2 HDV format in Vegas if you can, then working with that. Or ask the sender if they can send you .m2t format.
set wrote on 5/3/2014, 11:25 PM
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Edit:
I thought the issue seems almost similar like I had sometimes ago, as discussed before.

Thanks Nick Hope for correction. Apologize.

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NickHope wrote on 5/4/2014, 12:15 AM
set, I think that's probably an irrelevance here, since fosko's footage is a .mp4 file, not .m2t. mpeg2repair for one wouldn't do anything to it, and VideoRedo etc. probably wouldn't help either. I suppose VP13 might handle it better than VP12, based on your finding. But the root problem is that if it's really an HDV file then it shouldn't be in an mp4 container.
set wrote on 5/4/2014, 12:27 AM
ops, sorry, Thanks Nick. You are right, HDV should be MPEG-2 type detected.

Streams
Video: 00:00:04.960, 25.000 fps interlaced, 1440x1080x12, MPEG-2
Audio: 00:00:04.960, 48,000 Hz, Stereo, MPEG Layer 2

And, yes, 1 hour of HDV 25mbps should be 13GB. this was cut in half.

Anyway, for testing solution: Can put off compoundplug.dll temporarily, load to timeline, render to other format solve the problem?

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NickHope wrote on 5/4/2014, 12:32 AM
Can put off compoundplug.dll temporarily, load to timeline, render to other format solve the problem?

His crash is during playback. Maybe he can render it out to "real" HDV without the crash. There's obviously going to be a quality hit by having transcoded to AVCHD and back. If that's significant/important then better to get a "real" HDV file.

By the way if the supplier of the footage is Mac-based, then it's probably going to be have to be Quicktime's flavour of "HDV", not an m2t file.
fosko wrote on 5/4/2014, 3:35 PM
Well.. before I read all of this.. I started rendering the file as a .mpg. That was 2.5 hours ago and it hasn't moved from 0%. The estimated time has jumped all over the place from 2 hours to 23 hours and back and fourth.

Meanwhile I copied file to laptop to do the same thing as an HDV file. It's been 6 minutes and no progress (still calculating estimated time).

I'm not sure if I'm going in the right direction here. Some of this is over my head. A few bits of info:

1) it was shot on a Sony (don't know model..but if only saves HDV..not AVCHD).
2) saved on an SD card which was then loaded into a MAC
3) when we tried to transfer it to another SD card and Hard Drive we had all kinds of problems (I'm mac illterate)
4) we decided to take the file and upload it to Google, that way I could download it and (we thought) start editing.
5) when I open file in Google.. I can play it fine. When I download from Google... I have these issues. (leads me to wonder if Google does some thing to the file to transfer it. For such a large file it only took about 1/2 hour)
6) Another thought was to get the shooter to write it to a BluRay for transfer. I just need to find a bluRay reader.

Your tips were kind of healpful, but a little confusing. Will rendering the file fix is, and if so...what format is best ?

Thanks a lot for your time and help.
fosko wrote on 5/4/2014, 6:17 PM
OK
6 hours later and progress on both systems is 0%.
Time for plan B which is.....well... I don't know. I did read the other thread and some of that is just over my head. Are we saying this isn't possible with Vegas 12 ?
John_Cline wrote on 5/4/2014, 6:23 PM
I would say that the file is corrupt if neither Vegas nor Media Player will even play it. If it was originally recorded in the camcorder to an SD card, it is likely some sort of AVCHD or MP4 file, not a plain vanilla MPEG2 HDV file.
FilmingPhotoGuy wrote on 5/4/2014, 11:36 PM
I had footage that was captured via Pinnacle and Vegas couldn't read it either. Had to recapture via Vegas. Maybe TMPG encoder might be able to change the format into something Vegas can read.
Rob Franks wrote on 5/5/2014, 5:52 AM
It's not avchd... at least not from a Sony cam (sony doesn't use AAC for avchd as far as I know) and it's clearly not real HDV. It looks more like a cross between HDV and MP4.