HDV Footage from P2 cards. Sound, No Video?

omar wrote on 4/21/2008, 7:31 AM
I have HDV footage on P2 cards that was transferred onto my hard drive through Final Cut Pro as .MOV files. When I try playing them in Quicktime on my Windows PC I get sound but no video. Also when I try importing the files Sony Vegas throws an error with Quicktime saying the Sony Quicktime plugin was not able to initialize. Please don't tell me I can't work with HDV mov files in Vegas??
Thanks.

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TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/21/2008, 7:41 AM
odds are you don't have the codec to play/view them. fcp comes with that particular codec, vegas does not.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/21/2008, 7:47 AM
Once FCP has touched DVCProHD or HDV, you *must* convert it. FCP changes the files. Quicktime Pro + Raylight are the best overall workflow, IMO.
omar wrote on 4/21/2008, 8:45 AM
Can I get the codec somehow?
How would I convert?

These are the type of things that make me want to go with Final Cut.
kairosmatt wrote on 4/21/2008, 9:30 AM
"These are the type of things that make me want to go with Final Cut"

Actually, its not entirely Vegas' fault. As Spot said, Final Cut converts into its own format. Its very hard to get that footage out-its no longer P2 MXF its a quicktime. If you search www.dvxuser.com Barry Green has lots to say on this issue, as do many others.

Check out the Raylight products, there's probably a solution that works for you:

www.dvfilm.com
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/21/2008, 9:40 AM
These are the type of things that make me want to go with Final Cut.

that's like saying you should learn russian because you bought a cook book in russian for a few pennies cheaper then the english version. :/

odds are it's going to be easier to re-capture them in vegas or any other PC capture utility. Apple is the one with the weird files, here.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/21/2008, 10:25 AM
It's not at *all* Vegas fault. Panasonic refuses/refused to sell their SDK to Sony. There is a very public thread between Sony and Panasonic on the Creative Cow.
Raylight and Quicktime Pro are the solution. However, it's also important to understand that once you're in FCP-land and the footage of these formats has been touched, it HAS to be converted if you're going to take it anywhere anyway. FCP for the most part, is an island. It likes things done its way, it does not play well in the sandbox with others. .mxf is a good intermediary, however.
tuffluff wrote on 4/21/2008, 11:30 AM
I had a simular problem, video files handed to me from a guy using final cut. I got sound but no video. Had the files reopened in Final cut and re-rendered out as Photo JPEG @ 100% quality.
Now Vegas sees the files fine.
This is definitely a Final Cut issue.
omar wrote on 4/21/2008, 2:39 PM
I'm testing the raylight demo. It did convert the footagr but the footage doesn't look widescreen. It looks like its squeezed stretched vertically.
kairosmatt wrote on 4/21/2008, 2:57 PM
Omar,
Is it really HDV footage you have from a P2? If its HDV try setting the pixel aspect ratio to 1.333 by right clicking on the clip and going into properties. Its under the media tab.

matt
omar wrote on 4/21/2008, 4:35 PM
Thanks Matt. It's definitely HD footage. That worked. By the way, it said 1.2121 (NTSC DV Widescreen) as opposed to 1.333. Did I miss something?
UPDATE: Oops, I did find that setting HDV right under it!

I'm also getting bars to the left and right when I render in widescreen mode using 16x9 display.
Laurence wrote on 4/21/2008, 5:31 PM
Not that a purist would want to do this, but would AVCUpshift convert P2 footage into HDV if one wanted to do that?
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/21/2008, 5:56 PM
but would AVCUpshift convert P2 footage into HDV if one wanted to do that
Nope. Panasonic only sells the codec to those that they'd like to sell to. I'm quite certain we aren't on their list of people to sell to.
omar wrote on 4/23/2008, 8:17 AM
I've tried the Raylight encoder demo going. I was able to get the HVX HD footage into Vegas with the watermarks. So do I need the Raylight encoder or the full Raylight Pro to get rid of the watermarks as I edit in Vegas?
omar wrote on 4/24/2008, 6:01 PM
Bump: Once I have the Raylight encoder will the watermarks disappear from the footage.
Spot|DSE wrote on 4/24/2008, 6:04 PM
Once you *pay* for the Raylight encoder, the watermarks go away, yes.