HDV to Blu-ray without re-encoding!

MozartMan wrote on 8/13/2007, 8:36 PM
HDV to Blu-ray without re-encoding!

It works!

Thanks to one user on AVS forum that discovered this trick.

Tools used:

Elecard XMuxer Lite
Vegas 7
HDTVToMpeg
TSRemux
Nero

Here are the steps:


1) Demux the .m2t HDV file to elementary streams using Elecard XMuxer Lite. I get a .m2v and .mpa file.

2) Use Vegas 7 to create an .ac3 5.1 (pseudo) file from the 2.0 stereo .mpa file.

3) Mux the .m2v and the newly created .ac3 with Elecard XMuxer Lite. I get a .ts file. Elecard Xmuxer Pro does a correct mux for HDTVToMPEG.

4) Open the newly muxed TS file in HDTVToMpeg and cut a small portion of the beginning of the stream.

5) Open the newly created TS from HDTVToMpeg in TSRemux 0.0.18 and create a blu-ray structure. You get BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders structure.

6) Burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders on a BD-RE in UDF 2.50 with Nero.

Plays perfectly on PS3 with 1.90.

TSRemux creates chapters with certain interval, but doesn't create actual menu (yet). Video starts playing from the beginning when you press Top Menu on BD remote.

That user also says that he tried to put the TSRemux .m2ts file (from the STREAM folder) in the DvdIt Pro HD structure to have a menu and it worked like a charm.

Comments

LSHorwitz wrote on 8/14/2007, 7:21 AM
Good to see that this is a possibility for BluRay. Ulead Movie Factory 6+ (approx $50) will go directly from HDV to finished HD DVDs with no re-encoding as well, and allows a single inexpensive program to be used to make red laser HD DVDs in a very short time (typically less than 10 minutes from captured HDV to finished HD DVD disk) with superb results. The XBox 360 user thus has a similar way to go from the camcorder to the finished high definition disk.

Larry
blink3times wrote on 8/14/2007, 7:33 AM
Well... I will say that's a step in the right direction anyway. Still a lot of hoops to jump through though.Maybe if it can be simplified it would be worth it.

Ulead TRIED to simplify it once. They had the trial version of movie factory 5 up on their sight that could capture, edit, render and burn a real BDMV in dd5.1 sound. That trial disappeared in about 2 weeks time and reappeared a short time later.... WITHOUT the blu ray ability. They got squashed by Sony.... and THIS... is what angers me to no end... the technology and software is there.... Sony just doen't want you doing it.... at least not without a whole pile of licenses and restrictions.
Laurence wrote on 8/14/2007, 7:39 AM
What I'm really hoping for is for dual format Bluray / HD DVD players to become the norm. That way we can have the extended storage for our Hollywood blockbuster purchases, and yet make 3x (HD DVD format on regular DVD+-R) for our own little masterpieces. Bluray may be the superior format, but it has been crippled to the point where (so far at least) it hasn't been of much use to me as a small time content producer.
JJKizak wrote on 8/14/2007, 10:17 AM
It's pretty obvious to me that Sony doesn't want the populace to have the ability to burn Bluray discs without a "one time" use type of thing they tried with the CD "root" thing. I will be surprised and astounded to see DVD-A able to burn Bluray discs. I don't think DVD-A will ever be able to burn Bluray. But I hope I am wrong.
JJK
4eyes wrote on 8/14/2007, 12:50 PM
Ulead Movie Factory 6+ (approx $50) will go directly from HDV to finished HD DVDs with no re-encoding as well,MF5+ & MF6+ can burn Blu-Ray BDAV without re-encoding.
Ulead TRIED to simplify it once. They had the trial version of movie factory 5 up on their sight that could capture, edit, render and burn a real BDMV in dd5.1 sound.Didn't work correctly and you had to burn to a Blu-Ray Disk (not a dvd).
blink3times wrote on 8/14/2007, 3:28 PM
"Didn't work correctly and you had to burn to a Blu-Ray Disk (not a dvd"
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Although you are a bit wrong on the "not work correctly" on movie factory 5 bit (I know for a fact that it does work... (or did anyway) a friend had the trial.... long since expired now though). And I don't know about movie factory 6 and HD DVD burning, but I do know for a fact that Ulead Video studio 11 as well as Pinnacle studio 11 will do HD DVD without reencoding (I've done about 50 or 60 disks now in Pinnacle)

But more to the point... the whole thing just goes to show you how UNNECESSARILY complicated BD burning in general is.
LSHorwitz wrote on 8/15/2007, 6:36 AM
Precisely. This was my reason for posting the HD DVD alternative above, since I have yet to see any reason whatsoever to prefer making red laser disks for a BluRay player when compared to the HD DVD alternative. HD DVD is cheap, simple, fast, and works flawlessly. The BluRay is expensive, complicated, and slower.


Oh, and did I mention that HD DVD players have been showing up for as low as $199?

Double or triple that cost for a BluRay player.....


Congratulations Sony........you have made just about every aspect of the BluRay format a big 'f*ck you' to your loyal customers......

Larry