Help...Vegas 24p rendering issue

PH125 wrote on 8/31/2004, 12:09 PM
I just created a 24p widescreen presentation, using a lot of animated photos and text. I render it out as 24p DV widescreen with a 2:3 pulldown, and when i play it in Win media player, there is a lot of text flicker and distortion. However, when i render it as a straight 24p uncompressed avi, and play it in WIn media as well, it looks great.

Alternatively, I took this uncompressed AVI back into vegas and rendered it as a 29.97 dv avi and the text and images looked the same as with the pulldown: slightly distorted and blurred.

How to I get it to render properly in 24p w/ pulldown without sacrificing the quality. I am aiming to put this on a dvd in DVDA.

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db wrote on 8/31/2004, 4:19 PM
how does it play in Vegas TL ??

is WMP playing it back as 16x9 or 4x3 ?
you will loose quality on text rendering to dv.avi 4:1:1 color space especially with color text ... if you are then going to take that dv.avi clip and render to mpeg ( 4:2:2) your titles will loose a little more quality ..

IMO if this is for DVD do not render your MPEG 2 from a rendered dv.avi .. for best quality render the mpeg from either your vegas edited TL or render your project out as a uncompressed.avi or use the sony YUV codec to render to a uncompressed 4:2:2 clip .. then use that clip as a MASTER to render out mpegs, dv avi, wmv , qt etc ...

Spot|DSE wrote on 8/31/2004, 5:29 PM
Keep in mind, unless you are displaying on a computer, the pulldown will be inserted at the DVD player when shown on a TV. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but wanted to mention it.
PH125 wrote on 8/31/2004, 11:54 PM
well, i had rendered to an uncompressed avi, and that looked great (I rendered it to a 24p NTSC DV avi first which looked horrible text wise for some reason). However, when I imported that uncompressed into DVDA (it was a 16:9 project) The AVI appeared as 4:3, even though I rendered it as a 16:9 aspect ratio. I couldn't find a way to change this in DVDA (All changing the optimizing of the footage to 16:9 did was put a 4:3 into a 16:9 frame.) so I rendered the original uncompressed to a DV AVI 24p with pull down and then brought it into DVDA and it worked fine, the aspect ratio was mainatined.'

However, I was unhappy with the final disc, some of the transitions were choppy and pixelated and some of the white text on black backgrounds seemd to flicker.

What's going on?
Laurence wrote on 9/1/2004, 6:14 AM
I find that I can play back my AVIs with PowerDVD and see them without deinterlace artifacts on my computer screen. If I use the still capture feature of PowerDVD, I can also capture deinterlaced stills that look better than ones captured from Vegas. This is pretty useful when you make menus and covers. Anyway, playing back the uncompressed AVIs from PowerDVD lets you check the look before going through the additional steps of making a DVD.