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DaveCT wrote on 4/22/2003, 12:28 AM
I don't have a solution, but I wanted to let you know this has happened to me too. No settings were changed. It just seemed to begin happening for no apparent reason.

-Dave
IanG wrote on 4/22/2003, 5:35 AM
Have you checked "Ignore Event Groupings"? I think it's possible to get this problem by adding transitions to clips that haven't been overlapped. Grazie found that the video was extended to introduce an overlap but I think this removes the association between audio and video.

Ian G.
Chienworks wrote on 4/22/2003, 9:21 PM
It's also possible to "ungroup" the audio from the video by hitting the U key while the event is selected. There's no visual feedback that anything has happened, so you might not discover you've done this until too late.
Grazie wrote on 4/22/2003, 11:41 PM
Hiyah BirdFalk!

'I tried to "re group" them . . . ' - BF - Try what Ian & Chienworks suggest - yeah? I've hit the U key by mistake and wondered why the stuff was out of synch! [ Ian - thanks for the "Call-to-arms" on this one! ]

I think I know where you are going with this - Group and Ungroup is like the function you and I find within a graphics package. I can group and ungroup a selection of graphic elements that go into a "graphic" - yeah? It is similar for NLE [ Non-Linear Editing] work. This function is there in NLE s/w for many, many valuable reasons. Not the least of which is the ability of VF and come to that any NLE worth its salt to allow the operator to do "A:B Roll" cutaway shots - ie separating that which is being seen from a "scene" keeping the same audio going and "cutting-away" to another - THEN cutting back to the original scene. To do this an NLE has to have the ability to "Ungroup" the Audio from its Video - momentarily - so that the NLE operator can them make the Video intercut to the other scene - yeah? Apologies if you knew this already - I'm a prime sinner when it comes to assuming others know this stuff. Anyways - when you get to grips with A:B Roll cutting and introducing cutaways into your projects, it will start to take on a life of its own - really! The first time a did it, I thought "WOW - is that's how it's done - kool!!"

Apologies if I've got this wrong - However, when you Group and Ungroup, you can apply this to a whole load of audio and video elements - Not just the audio to its "own" video! If you Ungroup the audio from its own video by doing the RE-Group or Group thing all you are doing is "grouping" back where ever the audio to THAT particular video happens to be AT THAT TIME - not to where it was. It does not regroup back. If anything will work here it would be the "Undo" command - But you don't wanna do that because you could end up with "loosing" all the good work you had just created -yeah?


BF - YOUR PROJECT FOR TODAY - should you accept it . .. . is . . . ..

Now, try importing a "fresh" bit of DV from your cammy. Stick it up on your timeline and have a play around with it.

1. Do the "Ungroup" thing
2. Do the "ReGroup" thing
3. Move the Audioi separately from the Video

Do this a number of times and you will start to see the logic of this remarkable product - if it is solely your experience and use of the s/w, BF, you will find your own way of understanding how things work aropund here - yeah?

Hope this has helped a bit - and not confused any further!

Best regards

Grazie

BIG BIG PS - just re-read what I said about A:B editing: You need to utilise the "upper" Video or one of the "unused" video tracks to do this. Officially A:B roll editing "happens" WITHIN the same video track - this you get with Vegas Video or now Vegas 4. BUT you can still get close to this "type" of function within VF, as I explained - yeah?
Grazie wrote on 4/26/2003, 2:00 AM
Well . . .? Is anybody out there? Has BirdFalk flown away????

Grazie
bansl wrote on 4/27/2003, 12:24 AM
...well, I found it interesting and useful anyway..

Thanks,

Bryan.
Grazie wrote on 4/27/2003, 1:26 AM
Cheers! If I can I'll keep on repsondong to people's questions then - yeah? But I would like to know if what I've suggested has worked. It's how I learn as well . . .

Thanks anyway,

Grazie
Joby wrote on 4/27/2003, 7:33 PM
I also found it very informative. I will try it now I have actually finished my first real project, recording back to tape and making a VCD which actually plays in my DVD player!
Thanks, Joby