Will, Thanks for your quick response. I am sure about the format:
44.1 khz, it is all I ever use cause I then mix to DAT , then press a
CD, all at the same format. How do I test the BNC cable to see it is
passing word clock signal? Is the process I originally stated correct
for recording to Vegas? To be honest, as a go around...(really
convoluted approach) I recorded each track separately to DAT, saved
as a wave file then one at a time imported them into VegasPro. It
works, but very time consuming...MM

michael mcgaughey wrote:
>> How do I test the BNC cable to see it is
>>passing word clock signal?

Not trying to be a smart*ss but I usually just try another cable if I
suspect a bad one. Best to use high quality cable that is designed
for that task when doing digital audio.

>>Is the process I originally stated correct
>>for recording to Vegas?

Yes. Except that according to what you posted you had the wrong "word
clock" configured in the PCI console. This setting is not something
that can be ignored. It won't work at all if the word clock source is
wrong.

>> To be honest, as a go around...(really
>>convoluted approach) I recorded each track separately to DAT, saved
>>as a wave file then one at a time imported them into VegasPro. It
>>works, but very time consuming...MM

Ouch. You should be able to record directly from the DA88 to Vegas
through the MOTU if things are set up right.

Willg

Hello again Will, I am at the studio now, and am trying to record
from the DA88 decks into VegasPro using the PCI324 work clock setting
as stated earlier by you as a fix. I am still having difficulty
recording into VegasPro...I do not even see the record meters move at
all. I am only trying to record DA88 tracks 1 and 2,which are
acoustic guitar left and right and track 4, which is vocal. Do I need
to pan anything other than the default center position? I have tried
different pan positions but to no avail. I am sure the TDIF cables
are good cause I can see in Bank SA on the 2408 yellow lights on the
tracks (1,2 and 4)illuminating on the input - just no indication in
VegasPro. There in VegasPro, audio routi9ng, I have 2 busses:
Bus A is DA-88 tracks 1and 2, Bus B is tracks 3 and 4 (even though I
am not using 3 at this point....what am I doing wrong? I must
confess, I have not upgraded to version 1.0B yet, but I doubt that is
the source of my problem. If I am right in the configuration, then
the only other possibility is I have a bad (new) BNC cable! Please
advise.Thanks, MM.

Well, I am NOT in the studio this evening so the following is from
memory and I may be a little off on some of the procedure but it
should be close enough for you to get the picture.

MOTU PCI Console configuration:

1. Open PCI Console
2. Select Sampling Rate of formatted DA-88 Tape
3. Select Clock source as "2408 Word Clock" (if DA88 is word clock
master)
4. Select DA88 on Bank A, and "From Computer" as output source
5. Enable (check) Input check boxes 1 - 8
6. Close PCI Console

Vegas Pro configuration:

1. Open Vegas project with 4 stereo busses and 8 tracks.
2. Under Options.Preferences.Routing make sure you select "Use Custom
Routing" and that DA88-1 tracks 1 & 2 are assigned to BussA, DA88-1
tracks 3 & 4 to BussB, and so on. Close dialog box.

Have you made it this far? If not, let us know. If so, continue.

3. Click Track1 "Arm To Record" button with left mouse.
4. Click Track1 "ATR" button again with Right mouse and choose "...1"
and "L". The Bus button for an armed Track1 one should now Read "1L".

Have you made it this far? If so, continue. If not, go back and check
your routing. Also make sure that your PCI console settings are still
correct with the Input boxes checked.

5. Click Track2 record "ATR" button with left mouse.
6. Click Track2 "ATR" button again with Right mouse and choose "...1"
and "R". The Bus button for an armed Track2 one should now Read "1R".

7. Click Track3 record "ATRM" button with left mouse.
8. Click Track3 "ATR" button with Right mouse and choose "...2" and
"L".
9. Click Track4 record "ATRM" button with left mouse.
10.Click Track4 "ATR" button with Right mouse and choose "...2" and
"R".
11.Repeat until you have all your DA88-1 stereo pairs assigned.

You should now have meters showing on each armed track and if you
roll the DA-88 tape you should see the meters respond to the track
data on the DA88?

If you do see meter movement, you are ready to record to the hard
drive using Vegas. Hit the record button on the transport bar and
buffle off to shuffalo.

If not, you have a problem with either routing, bad cables or bad
hardware so let us know how far you get.

Willg




michael mcgaughey wrote:
>>Hello again Will, I am at the studio now, and am trying to record
>>from the DA88 decks into VegasPro using the PCI324 work clock
setting
>>as stated earlier by you as a fix. I am still having difficulty
>>recording into VegasPro...I do not even see the record meters move
at
>>all. I am only trying to record DA88 tracks 1 and 2,which are
>>acoustic guitar left and right and track 4, which is vocal. Do I
need
>>to pan anything other than the default center position? I have
tried
>>different pan positions but to no avail. I am sure the TDIF cables
>>are good cause I can see in Bank SA on the 2408 yellow lights on
the
>>tracks (1,2 and 4)illuminating on the input - just no indication in
>>VegasPro. There in VegasPro, audio routi9ng, I have 2 busses:
>>Bus A is DA-88 tracks 1and 2, Bus B is tracks 3 and 4 (even though
I
>>am not using 3 at this point....what am I doing wrong? I must
>>confess, I have not upgraded to version 1.0B yet, but I doubt that
is
>>the source of my problem. If I am right in the configuration, then
>>the only other possibility is I have a bad (new) BNC cable! Please
>>advise.Thanks, MM.
>>

Will, thanks for the reply. i do not fault you with your approach to
an explanation... at this point, I too, would be thinking "what kind
of clutz am I dealing with here"? Well Will, I know a thing or two
about audio recording, just was having a bit of a small problemo with
the VegasPro programmo! Thanks again, you pointed out a step I
completely missed:
choose "...1" and "L". The Bus button for an armed Track1 one should
now Read "1L".>
I will try it Monday when I return to the studio...by the way, I am
in Alaska and the time difference here compared to there is
significant...I just arrived home from a long day there recording.MM.

Will, I thought I would post an update to the delimma I had found
myself in earlier...Your solution worked except:

choose "...1" and "L". The Bus button for an armed Track1 one should
now Read "1L".>
Instead of right clicking on the "ATR" button, you actually right
click on the "number" (track) appearing to the left of the "ATR"
button. No real big problem, I just wanted to set the record straight
for anyone else following the solution. It indeed works! I had no
trouble getting the tracks from the DA-88's into VegasPro! One more
question though: Why doesn't the VegasPro Manual describe this
proceedure? Seems easy enough if you have the information, but there
will be others out there who, like me are following the book and not
getting into the software. OK, so some things have to be given over
to common sense, but I do not think new "software writers" should
expect "new users of their software" to use common sense to figure
things out on their own. I am not advocating a "See Tip Run" approach
to things, but it would surely help if in the "How to Record" section
these tips were included! Besides this minor omission, I am impressed
with the "simplicity", look, and ease the imported tracks can be
manipulated, edited and made fun! Thank You Sonic Foundry.MM.