How best to match eq for voice audio

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Steven Myers wrote on 1/8/2010, 8:43 AM
room tone

...which differs how from foley?
rs170a wrote on 1/8/2010, 8:47 AM
At the risk of being very general, foley refers mainly to sound effects, not dialogue.
Foley artist on Wikipedia.

Mike
Steven Myers wrote on 1/8/2010, 10:56 AM
foley refers mainly to sound effects

As I understand it, it refers to sound effects, including the sound that's happening in the room without dialog. If the room happens to have a noisy window air conditioner, that would be part of it.
That way, if an actor's line needs to be redone later in the studio, the sound of the air conditioner can be be mixed in.

Anyway, the OP was asking about EQ. Then we went through a lot of irrelevant responses, followed by a thread-hijacking by an infantile personality.

I still think Acoustic Mirror (or similar) is the way to go. But the OP either does not have AM or did not get an impulse.
So it's down to jiggling the EQ. I have not tried Ozone, so cannot comment on its ability to simulate room freq responses.
musicvid10 wrote on 1/8/2010, 11:01 AM
I've may be in an isolated corner of the industry, but I have never heard foley used to refer to natural or ambient sound. Post production only.
Steven Myers wrote on 1/8/2010, 12:02 PM
Thanks, musicvid. You know a lot more than I do.

But we're still off-topic. Has anyone here ever tried Ozone with success in replicating EQ curves?
John_Cline wrote on 1/8/2010, 1:51 PM
If you absolutely wanted the audio from your clips to match, you could use ADR (dialog replacement) along with the appropriate foley and room tone. This would completely recreate your audio track from scratch and not use any of the original audio. This is not a particularly easy task but is used in movies and TV much more often than the average viewer would think.

Steinberg had a plug-in called "Free Filter" and Roger Nichols Digital had "Frequalizer." They would both analyze the overall spectral distribution (EQ curve) of an existing file and apply that curve to another file. Free Filter is a 10-year-old Direct-X plugin and doesn't work very well with newer versions of some audio software and I was never particularly satisfied with the match EQ results of Frequalizer.

I use Free Filter all the time but, to my knowledge, neither Free Filter nor Frequalizer are currently being sold. I would be very interested in finding a current plugin that does the same thing.

"I feel like Bill Murray, and you're Sgt. Hulka."

BudWzr: Sorry, I'm not a Bill Murray fan, so I don't get your reference.
Grazie wrote on 1/8/2010, 11:09 PM
Isn't this a job for "Acoustic Mirror"? In which case Vegas has it all. Or have I misunderstood the requirements?

Grazie
farss wrote on 1/9/2010, 1:23 AM
"Isn't this a job for "Acoustic Mirror?"

If you're talking about a dry recording then yes, that would give you a shot at it.
The problem in this case is trying to match recordings in two different wet rooms, possibly compounded by different atmos as well.

There's possibly another problem as well that I stuck a few days ago. Non professional speaker's voices run down. Client had a page full of words to record and he was certain he'd knock it over in "a few minutes" and we weren't doing too bad until the last section, which was the big close out and he just didn't have the steam left in the boiler.

Bob.
apit34356 wrote on 1/9/2010, 3:10 AM
Farss, one should always follow the critical golden rule with marginal "healthy" clients in ADR. ;-) The most critical scenes first and the least last. Linear ADR is very "old" and costly with poor health clients... ;-) I figure you know this but couldn't resist the "Budz's moment"
farss wrote on 1/9/2010, 4:10 AM
"I figure you know this "

Well I do now, anything learned the hard way is never forgotten :)

Then again, knowing is one thing, doing is another. Convincing others it does matter is a whole new nightmare.

Bob.
Leee wrote on 1/9/2010, 5:39 AM
You know, as a relative newcomer to this forum (but I'm 48 and have been in the Video Production field for over 25 years) I find it really bothersome to wade through all the personal bickering bs to try and find the comments, responses and answers to the original question.

I was also interested in the topic the OP was asking about, but I got halfway through this thread before I just gave up due to frustration. For this type of forum it's really unprofessional and uncalled for.
BudWzr wrote on 1/11/2010, 1:10 AM
So now you are complaining about the bickering and adding MORE?

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You know, as a relative newcomer to this forum (but I'm 48 and have been in the Video Production field for over 25 years) I find it really bothersome to wade through all the personal bickering bs to try and find the comments, responses and answers to the original question.
richard-amirault wrote on 1/11/2010, 7:21 AM
So now you are complaining about the bickering and adding MORE?

No .. he just made a comment (admittedly OT) ... you are the one who is "bickering" :-)